[occi-wg] Resource Types: Compute / Network / Storage

Ignacio Martin Llorente llorente at dacya.ucm.es
Mon Apr 20 01:58:33 CDT 2009


Dear colleagues,

Thanks for this quite interesting thread!. I think that we all have a  
clear and common vision of the challenges, scope and goal of this  
working group, as it is described in its charter.

Let us now resume the technical work.

Ignacio

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On 19/04/2009, at 22:22, Simon Wardley wrote:

> Simplicity is extremely difficult to get right.
>
> On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 21:05 +0100, Alexis Richardson wrote:
>> Simon,
>>
>> Thank-you for your support.
>>
>> And if this is our goal, then let's take it seriously.  It sounds  
>> easy
>> but it isn't.  Nothing beneficial is trivial; "simplicity and
>> generality" is often hard to achieve.
>>
>> a
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Simon Wardley
>> <simon.wardley at canonical.com> wrote:
>>> Alexis,
>>>
>>> I completely agree with you - 100%.
>>>
>>> If you could achieve this, it would be very beneficial.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:45 +0100, Alexis Richardson wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Please heed Simon's point:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Simon Wardley
>>>> <simon.wardley at canonical.com> wrote:
>>>>>> That mostly works for me,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's good, but we need to encourage everyone to stick to the  
>>>>> same
>>>>> terminology and not go about creating new stuff.
>>>>
>>>> In discussions with folks over the last few days, I have noticed a
>>>> tendency to assume that OCCI is a premature exercise.  The argument
>>>> made is that creating an open (standard) API will either stifle
>>>> innovation or simply miss the point, because clouds and cloud  
>>>> APIs are
>>>> still evolving.  A concomitant claim is that an open API will
>>>> necessarily attempt to invent something new, or introduce  
>>>> complexity
>>>> where it is unwarranted.
>>>>
>>>> To such people, I have been saying: At this stage, we are not  
>>>> trying
>>>> to invent anything.  IMO: our focus is on carefully representing
>>>> existing art, towards a progressively simpler model.  At this time,
>>>> this means codifying commonality across *existing* cloud APIs and
>>>> models, at the IaaS layer.  Our hope is that the result of this  
>>>> will
>>>> be something very easy to implement, with only a few verbs, and a
>>>> model that is obviously consistent with other standards.
>>>>
>>>> The exact number of 'core' verbs is TBD - we don't yet agree on  
>>>> this -
>>>> but my *own* hope is that the core OCCI spec is surprisingly  
>>>> short in
>>>> pagelength if nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> alexis
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