[occi-wg] Resource Types: Compute / Network / Storage

Simon Wardley simon.wardley at canonical.com
Sun Apr 19 15:22:23 CDT 2009


Simplicity is extremely difficult to get right.

On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 21:05 +0100, Alexis Richardson wrote:
> Simon,
> 
> Thank-you for your support.
> 
> And if this is our goal, then let's take it seriously.  It sounds easy
> but it isn't.  Nothing beneficial is trivial; "simplicity and
> generality" is often hard to achieve.
> 
> a
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Simon Wardley
> <simon.wardley at canonical.com> wrote:
> > Alexis,
> >
> > I completely agree with you - 100%.
> >
> > If you could achieve this, it would be very beneficial.
> >
> > On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:45 +0100, Alexis Richardson wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Please heed Simon's point:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Simon Wardley
> >> <simon.wardley at canonical.com> wrote:
> >> >> That mostly works for me,
> >> >
> >> > That's good, but we need to encourage everyone to stick to the same
> >> > terminology and not go about creating new stuff.
> >>
> >> In discussions with folks over the last few days, I have noticed a
> >> tendency to assume that OCCI is a premature exercise.  The argument
> >> made is that creating an open (standard) API will either stifle
> >> innovation or simply miss the point, because clouds and cloud APIs are
> >> still evolving.  A concomitant claim is that an open API will
> >> necessarily attempt to invent something new, or introduce complexity
> >> where it is unwarranted.
> >>
> >> To such people, I have been saying: At this stage, we are not trying
> >> to invent anything.  IMO: our focus is on carefully representing
> >> existing art, towards a progressively simpler model.  At this time,
> >> this means codifying commonality across *existing* cloud APIs and
> >> models, at the IaaS layer.  Our hope is that the result of this will
> >> be something very easy to implement, with only a few verbs, and a
> >> model that is obviously consistent with other standards.
> >>
> >> The exact number of 'core' verbs is TBD - we don't yet agree on this -
> >> but my *own* hope is that the core OCCI spec is surprisingly short in
> >> pagelength if nothing else.
> >>
> >> alexis
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