[Idel-wg] Mike Jones: Working Group Draft for OAuth 2.0 Act-As and On-Behalf-Of

Jensen, Jens (STFC,RAL,SC) jens.jensen at stfc.ac.uk
Thu Sep 18 10:43:45 EDT 2014


Hi Mischa,

That sounds to me like a great use case. If you look at the life of a
GSI proxy in the wild, you can see how many times it was delegated (like
tree rings or something), and that alone suggests a need for multistep
delegation.

Cheers
--jens

On 16/09/2014 14:21, Mischa Salle wrote:
> Hi Paul, others,
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 03:49:56PM +0200, Paul Millar wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> On 25/08/14 07:13, Sill, Alan wrote:
>>> Thought you would be interested in the following link, from the blog
>>> of Mike Jones of Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Topic: There's now an OAuth working group draft of the OAuth 2.0
>>> Token Exchange specification, which provides Act-As and On-Behalf-Of
>>> functionality for OAuth 2.0. This functionality is deliberately
>>> modelled on the same functionality present in WS-Trust.
>> Interesting, although (to me) a little odd: OAuth is already about
>> delegation, so providing a delegation framework within a delegation
>> framework seems redundant.
>>
>> Another odd point is that the RP needs to know (a priori) the
>> identity it wishes which, in general, it doesn't (c.f. OpenID
>> Connect).
>>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think that an interesting use-case is
> multi-step delegation. For single-step delegation standard OAuth2.0 is
> fine. But how should a resource server then do a further delegation
> step, so RP-1 want to request access to RP-2 on behalf of user. It could
> try to (mis)use the original token, but it's much better to require a
> new token. That means it must request a token on behalf of the original
> user. In that case, it also would know which identity to use, right? Or
> do I misunderstand your second remark?
>
>     Cheers,
>     Mischa
>
>> So, the use-case seems to be RP needs a credential (X.509, Kerberos,
>> ...) to communicate with some server that doesn't support OAuth but
>> trusts the server issuing the credential --- perhaps for legacy
>> services or ones that don't provide a web front-end?
>>
>> Anyhow, thanks for the pointer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Paul.
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