[glue-wg] Cloud extensions

navarro navarro at mcs.anl.gov
Fri Aug 28 09:16:58 EDT 2015


Alan,

BDII is an implementation based on a (I believe) old standard: GLUE 1.2. I don’t think it really matters what implementation anyone uses and whether internally it is standards based. The important question is whether they have interoperability requirements, and if so whether they use (GLUE) standards for interoperability. In other words, do they have an interoperability interface in their implementation.

I don’t know if they have interoperability requirements, and if they do how they will satisfy them. I am curious and have contacts in OSG so I will try to find answers.

JP

> On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Sill, Alan <alan.sill at ttu.edu> wrote:
> 
> While I think it is worth exploring new paradigms in this area, it is definitely the case that the EGI Federated Cloud makes explicit mention of using GLUE in all of its public talks, so keeping discussion and support going with them in this area would seem to be a good idea. 
> 
> More troubling to me is that the Open Science Grid has apparently abandoned use of BDII and seems to be going in a new direction for its related tasks. OGF's role and interest in these areas is always just to provide a forum and arena to document and to encourage exchange of information among participants on best practices and methods, including development and support of standards where appropriate. 
> 
> Is a discussion underway with OSG about its needs and current approach? Can we understand what led them to stop using BDII and GLUE (or did I misunderstand their current approach and get this wrong)?
> 
> At a somewhat higher level, should we restart or recommission a community or working group to look at overall practices in this area, with a focus on new technologies?
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 4:14 AM, Florido Paganelli <florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> AFAIU there is no status, we dropped it because EGI did not come back to
>> us about it anymore and they seemed to be the only interested ones. I
>> personally hardly think that anybody in the cloud world would find GLUE2
>> appealing. If you have some use for it I recommend you talk directly to
>> Salvatore Pinto who contributed a lot to it, and if you have ideas to
>> carry it on, we can rediscuss how to integrate it in the existing schemas.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Florido
>> 
>>> On 2015-08-12 10:27, Paul Millar wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering what it the current status of the proposed cloud
>>> extensions to GLUE 2.0?
>>> 
>>> Are there any documents (wiki pages, etc) that have the current status?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Paul.
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