[glue-wg] When is data stale?

JP Navarro navarro at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Apr 20 14:40:15 EDT 2015


Paul,

It is slow changing in our environment. I agree in principal that different infrastructures may need different Validity values for different entities.

JP
 
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Paul Millar <paul.millar at desy.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi JP,
> 
> On 20/04/15 15:45, JP Navarro wrote:
>> So slow changing information, such as ApplicationsEnvironment, may
>> have long Validity and we would want the information to be considered
>> valid even during an extended outage, even though during normal
>> operations it might be refreshed hourly.
> 
> OK, but why is ApplicationsEnvironment slow-changing?
> 
> With cloud environments and technologies like VMCatcher, it's possible for sites to acquire new potential applications environment very quickly and often.
> 
> I'm still wondering whether there really are "intrinsic" Validity values, as Stephen seems to suggests.
> 
>> The lack of clarify in the spec leads me to believe that we should
>> produce a best practice on setting Validity based on an agreed to set
>> of use cases (what behaviors we want to be able to support based on
>> Validity values).
> 
> I think this is a good idea -- I mentioned this in a different scope: as a "processing model" document.
> 
> In general such a document would describe how information gets into GLUE-2 (which seems to be lacking in GLUE-2).  It would also describe CreationTime and Validity and what expectations exist (if any) on clients when processing the information.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Paul.
> 
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