[dmis-bof] Comments on the charter?

Hiro Kishimoto hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com
Sun Oct 30 02:30:40 CST 2005


Hi Bill,

Data transfer is one of key data services and I am very appreciate your
effort to standardize its interface. I've read your charter proposal
and have several comments below;

(1) SOAP/WSDL interface
I take it you define interface on top of Web Service. Do you plan to
define it on vanilla WS-I or OGSA WSRF Basic Profile? As an OGSA-WG
co-chair, I hope the latter. The better approach is hybrid; abstract
IDL semantic definition plus one or more concrete rendering definitions.
OGSA-Byte-IO's work gives you a good example.

https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=154&category_id=1058

(2) Relation to OGSA
I know you are active member of OGSA-D WG. Do you intend to place this
work in the OGSA data architecture? Or, you make it to be combinable
with OGSA works? If you agree to go with OGSA, the following guideline
gives you more advice.

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ggf-editor/document/OGSA_related_working_group_research_group_and_specification_naming_guideline/en/1

(3) WG name
Since all GGF WGs work for standardization, I think you don't need to
name new WG as "Data Movement Interface *Standardization* WG." I think
- Data Movement WG, or
- Data Movement Interface WG
is better.

(4) Charter draft template
GFSG needs more information for charter draft.
Please use the OGSA-data WG's charter draft attached as an template
(which includes 7 questions you should answer).

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

William E. Allcock wrote:
> I haven't received any comments on the charter.  I would love to believe
> that is because you are all waiting to have your computers repaired after
> weeping uncontrollably on your keyboards due to the beauty of the prose...
> unfortunately, it is more likely that you have not taken time out of your
> insanely hectic schedule to review it :-).
> 
> Please do so.  It wont take long.  I opted for very little prose and then a
> timeline.  If people could comment on if they think the text is sufficient,
> and more importantly on whether the timeline is reasonable and has the right
> things in it, that would be wonderful.
> 
> Please remember, this can only be a success if we have participation from a
> variety of groups.  Particularly for this one since we have competing
> existing implementations, and we will need to get some momentum behind this
> to get people to change and conform.  They have to believe it provides some
> advantage to do so...
> 
> So, now! quick! before another email distracts you! read it! send me
> comments! I attached it again to this email to make it *REALLY* easy!
> 
> :-)
> 
> I had the above as "shouting", but then wondered how many spam filters would
> tag it as spam...
> 
> Bill
> 
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