[DAIS-WG] Minutes from the DAIS call on 14th May

Tue May 18 11:31:25 CDT 2010

Hi folks,

I've checked that all the recommended changes in section 7 of
"WS-DAI and WS-DAIR Implementations - Experimental Document"
have been applied to the DAI-Core and DAIR docs.

I've made overlooked changes and corrected typos and uploaded the new 
versions. Main changes/comments are below.

Cheers,

mike

DAI-Core
========

4. Rephrasing of NotAuthorizedFault sentence for operations.

  Did this for DAIR also.

5. WS-Addressing 2005/08 -> 2006/03

  Reverted changes in DAI-Core as we agreed at the telcon not to do this.

10, This id defined as

  On p42, InvalidExpressionFault message definition should use
  "wsdai:InvalidLanguageFault" element instead of using
  "wsdai:InvalidExpressionFault" element Resolution: on p42 change
  "wsdai:InvalidExpressionFault" to "wsdai:InvalidLanguageFault".

  But, this is wrong. We have:

  <wsdl:message name="InvalidExpressionFault">
    <wsdl:part name="InvalidExpressionFault"
               element="wsdai:InvalidLanguageFault" />
  </wsdl:message>

  We want:

  <wsdl:message name="InvalidExpressionFault">
    <wsdl:part name="InvalidExpressionFault"
               element="wsdai:InvalidExpressionFault" />
  </wsdl:message>

  So the recommendation should be to change InvalidLanguageFault to
  InvalidExpressionFault.

  Made this change to DAI-Core.

11. DatasetTooLargeFault

  Added in DAIR for SQLExecuteFactory and SQLRowsetFactory as agreed in
  telcon.

13. Use of elementFormDefault="qualified"

  This only needed adding to XSD documents and <wsdl:types><xsd:schema>
  parts of WSDL. Removed citations in <wsdl:definitions> parts of WSDL
  documents.

  Added elementFormDefault="qualified" for DAIR XSD.

DAIR
====

16. Rowset not RowSet

  Updated RowSet -> Rowset in pictures.

26. InvalidPortTypeQNameFault and InvalidConfigurationDocumentFault

  Added InvalidConfigurationDocumentFault to SQLRowsetFactory

29. Use of "name" attribute in operation input and output

  Made change for GetSQLResponsePropertyDocument and
  GetSQLRowsetPropertyDocument ops.

31. Stored procedures and optional DatasetData

  On reflection, agree with comments by Steve and Mario that this change
  shouldn't be made. If DatasetData is optional then DatasetFormatURI
  should be optional too as it doesn't make sense in isolation.

  I've undid the "DatasetData?" change from p16 and removed Mario/Steve
  comments.

"WS-DAI and WS-DAIR Implementations - Experimental Document" - typos
====================================================================

p26, last para before Section 7

  indepedent -> independent

7.1 DAI-Core

12. Fault message examples

  Cites DAI-Core section 4.1.3. Should cite 4.13.

7.2 DAIR

18.

  SQLAccessDesciption -> SQLAccessDescription

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On Sun, 16 May 2010, Steven Lynden wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Below are the minutes from the call on the 14th May, which included a
> discussion about a couple of outstanding issues related to the final
> changes being made to WS-DAI/WS-DAIR. Comments from anyone on these
> issues would be very welcome.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven.
>
> DAIS Call - 14th May 2010
> ================
>
> Present
> -------
>      Mario Antonioletti, EPCC
>      Mike Jackson, EPCC
>      Oscar Corcho, UPM
>      Carlos Buil Aranda, UPM
>      Isao Kojima, AIST
>      Steven Lynden, AIST
>
> Agenda
> ------
>
> - Status of the final changes being made to the WS-DAI and WS-DAIR documents.
> - Current status of the RDF specifications and implementations
>
> Actions
> -------
>
> [MJ] Do a final check of the changes made to the WS-DAI and WS-DAIR documents.
>
> [SL] When Mike has finished his check, send a final-call email to the
> DAIS-WG list asking for input on WS-DAI/WS-DAIR before submission.
>
> [SL] Send an email to Neil Chue Hong to find out about the current
> status of his review of the specifications.
>
> [SL] Compile a list of people/projects using the WS-DAI family of
> specifications and put this info up on GridForge.
>
> --
>
> Mario has completed almost all the changes to WS-DAI/WS-DAIR that were
> recommended as a result of interoperability testing.
>
> The group went through some outstanding issues:
>
> - WS-DAI change #11: DatasetTooLargeFault - some doubt about whether
> it should apply to factory operations but consensus is that it should.
>
> - WS-DAI change #31: Make DatasetData optional (e.g. for queries that
> don't return datasets such as SQL stored procedures) - some doubt
> about whether we should do this or recommended returning empty
> datasets. Consensus is to make it optional.
>
> - WS-Addressing issue: the version of WS-Addressing used by WS-DAI was
> updated to a different one than that used by the WSRF data resource,
> we should revert back to make this consistent.
>
> Mike will do a final check of the changes. After that we can ask for
> input from the mailing list and make a final call. We need to find out
> about the status of the WS-DAI/WS-DAIR review and move towards a final
> submission which will then allow the RDF querying specification to
> move forward.
>
> Oscar suggests that putting up a list of people using the WS-DAI
> family of specifications would be a good idea.
>
> Oscar reports on the status of the RDF work at UPM.
>
> - He is trying to find someone to take over from Miguel and work on
> the Ontology spec and will make a decision about what to do about this
> by the next OGF.
>
> Planning and working out the timelines regarding the RDF work is very
> important.
>
> - Carlos has almost completed his implementation of the RDF Querying
> specification. This will be used to do interoperability testing with
> the implementation developed at AIST.
>
> None of the attendees have definite plans to attend OGF 29. The next
> DAIS-WG session will probably be at OGF 30 in Brussels.
>
> Planning
> --------
>
> There will be no DAIS session at OGF 29.
>
> Next call on 7th June at 7am GMT.
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>

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