Whether To Design Open Source Public Records Equipment

[Karl]

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 2:25 AM Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 05:21:39 +0000 (UTC)
> jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >     On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 02:40:34 PM PDT, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <
> punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
> >
> >  On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:17:54 -0400
> > Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Punk, it sounds like you might be very concerned around this project.
> >
> > >    Not about this project in particular. The project is just another
> example of the uncritical worship of 'technology' that people engage in.
> >
> > >    Were you already subcribed when Jim proposed to use retard phones
> to 'anonymously' track people because of the FUCKING FLU SCARE? Self-parody
> can't get any better (or worse). Jim proposed more fascist surveillane
> based on an infinitely idiotic government lie, the very same thing that
> govcorp is doing
> >
> > No, you sleazy liar.  Here is what I said:
> >
>
>         yes, I dealt with your 'voluntary' fascist garbage in previous
> messages. It's all archived.  You proposed the very same thing that
> google-nsa proposes - 'anonymous' 'voluntary' surveillance because of the
> flu. Get a fucking a grip.
>
>         as to liars, that is you, parroting the lie that the flu is some
> kind of terrible threat requiring even more 'voluntary' fascism.
>

It is clear surveillance can be deadly.  We need to discuss how to act on
that.

It may be hard to read through such a long post of jim's when the post
considers designing tracking software, but it looks to me like jim was
discussing ways of _reducing_ the harm of google's behavior, not of making
worse surveillance overall.

It sounds like you are aware of community projects being used in a way that
is not actually voluntary?
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