On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 2:25 AM Punk-Stasi 2.0 <[1]punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:

     On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 05:21:39 +0000 (UTC)
     jim bell <[2]jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
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     >     On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 02:40:34 PM PDT, Punk-Stasi 2.0
     <[3]punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
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     >  On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:17:54 -0400
     > Karl <[4]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
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     > >> Punk, it sounds like you might be very concerned around this
     project.
     >
     > >    Not about this project in particular. The project is just
     another example of the uncritical worship of 'technology' that
     people engage in.
     >
     > >    Were you already subcribed when Jim proposed to use retard
     phones to 'anonymously' track people because of the FUCKING FLU
     SCARE? Self-parody can't get any better (or worse). Jim proposed
     more fascist surveillane based on an infinitely idiotic government
     lie, the very same thing that govcorp is doing
     >
     > No, you sleazy liar.  Here is what I said:
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             yes, I dealt with your 'voluntary' fascist garbage in
     previous messages. It's all archived.  You proposed the very same
     thing that google-nsa proposes - 'anonymous' 'voluntary'
     surveillance because of the flu. Get a fucking a grip.
             as to liars, that is you, parroting the lie that the flu is
     some kind of terrible threat requiring even more 'voluntary'
     fascism.

   It is clear surveillance can be deadly.  We need to discuss how to act
   on that.
   It may be hard to read through such a long post of jim's when the post
   considers designing tracking software, but it looks to me like jim was
   discussing ways of _reducing_ the harm of google's behavior, not of
   making worse surveillance overall.
   It sounds like you are aware of community projects being used in a way
   that is not actually voluntary?

References

   1. mailto:punks@tfwno.gf
   2. mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com
   3. mailto:punks@tfwno.gf
   4. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com