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Wed Apr 10 20:40:09 PDT 2019
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 21:24:20 -0400
Steve Kinney <admin at pilobilus.net> wrote:
> > Who are you planning to kill, exactly? And what sort of 'crime' gets you first a 'talk' and then gets you murdered? Not sure how any of your comments addresses any of the points I made.
> Nobody 'tall. But any society /will/ act to protect itself against
> people who exhibit chronic violent behavior -
you must be referring to people like berwick and his summary executions of 'pedophiles'?
By the way, I assume that berwick is going to execute children who 'play doctor' too, since such children are, well, 'pedophiles' themselves.
> with exceptions where
> civilized societies reward that behavior so long as it serves the
> purposes of the worst offenders, its ruling class.
and that such exceptions actually include all 'civilized' societies in which mass murder is completely institutionalized and worshiped. You know, like the western cesspool, especially the USA, etc.
> >> Frontier justice is not perfect, but it's the best system we have.
> >> Compare the Libertarian belief that incorruptible Courts adjudicating
> >> tort claims,
> > yeah but not the point at hand. And anarchy isn't frontier 'justice' either. Whatever you mean by 'justice'.
> Anarchy simply means the absence of a social command hierarchy acting
> through coercive means.
Anarchy means more than that. It means a social order based on voluntary cooperation. And whether interactions are voluntary or not is defined at the individual level. It's also a rationalistic anti-authoritarian philosophy, so it can make a few devastating comments on things like jew-christian theocracy, for instance.
> Anarchism denotes theoretical consideration and
> rhetoric related to defining and implementing (relatively) nonviolent
> social conventions and behavior.
Not just 'nonviolent' but consensual.
> The word "justice" indicates "adjustment."
Nah. The word justice indicates justice =) It's a word stolen from latin "justitia" (spanish justicia). "Adjustment' may come from the same root but it's a derived word and has a different meaning.
roman justice was even personified or made into a godess although roman justice was rather flawed. Regardless, the libertarian concept of justice stands. Justice being the state in which personal rights are respected, or restitution for rights violations is paid(to the extent possible)
> Lao Tzu say: "A man most conversant in the rites acts, but when no one
> responds, rolls up his sleeves and resorts to persuasion by force."
> The most typical problems with any idealistic -ism arise when people
> take abstract ideas literally and try to apply them without
> consideration of material context in the real world. As guiding
> principles, abstractions like "anarchy" can deliver a lot of value; but
> as explicit instructions held to apply universally, they often achieve
> the exact opposite of their intended results.
That's kinda vague? But maybe you are referring to 'anarcho' fascists like berwick and the like? They perfectly fit my previous comments about fake libertarians and true fascists.
I bet if you criticize google, amazon and the rest of the NSA, berwick and his pal jakobo would go into hysterical pro-corporate propaganda mode, just like their accomplice, scumbag jeffrey tucker
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