U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style

[Juan]

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:51:19 -0400
Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:

> I certainly think that geopolitics is not in general on topic for this
> list.

	Go figure. Dont like messages about geopolitics? (like the US
	cunts spying on the whole world), don't read messages about
	geopolitics. 



> 
> "Western governments" and "western propaganda" also don't seem to me
> to be on topic for this list. This is not a list about propaganda or
> governance. 


	Really. What about you the great "Ted Smith" completly banning
	political discussion? Since politics doesn't really have
	anything to do with 'cypherpunk'? 


> 
> Since this list is unmoderated, I am sharing my discontent in the
> hopes of demotivating further threads on this topic.
 
> That said, I guess cpunks was never good, it's meaningless to attempt
> to stop the shitstorm, etc., and so on. But now there are 2-3 posters
> who continually post random conspiracy crap and have built an echo
> chamber that totally drowns out any actual cypherpunking.



	Go ahead. Post some 'actual' 'cypherpunking'. Maybe ask
	Dan Geer for support? Or help from the marines. Or the tor
	shitbags and their pentagon 'grants'.

> 
> Better posters (you know who you are), please stop encouraging this. 


	Government employees, you know who you are.



> 
> On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 17:44 -0300, Juan wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20 -0400
> > Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > What's the cypherpunk link in this?
> > 
> > 
> > 	That was part of a discussion on the nature of western
> > 	governments and western propaganda. 
> > 
> > 	Do you think that discussions on the nature of western
> > 	governments are off-topic? Maybe banned? 
> > 
> > 	Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the
> > suffering of US military murderers is?
> > 
> > 	paging Nick Econopouly <nickeconopouly at gmail.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > > http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integrity/ri8092
> > > > 
> > > > Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over
> > > > some time: "So let us recount the western position:
> > > >  -   It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial
> > > > integrity of other countries and the inviolability of borders
> > > > in Europe
> > > >  -   However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the
> > > > territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be
> > > > trampled at will
> > > >  -   Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal
> > > > Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial
> > > > integrity of its constituent republics seeking independence was
> > > > holy
> > > >  -   Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav
> > > > constituent republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and
> > > > Herzegovina was holy, the territorial integrity of Serbia was
> > > > not
> > > >  -   Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave
> > > > Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia
> > > >  -   Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo
> > > > Albanians could secede from Serbia
> > > >  -   Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo
> > > > Serbs could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo
> > > >  -   Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under
> > > > NATO military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede
> > > > from Ukraine under Russian military control
> > > > 
> > > > May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles.
> > > > "
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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