U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style

[Ted Smith]

I certainly think that geopolitics is not in general on topic for this
list.

"Western governments" and "western propaganda" also don't seem to me to
be on topic for this list. This is not a list about propaganda or
governance. 

Since this list is unmoderated, I am sharing my discontent in the hopes
of demotivating further threads on this topic.

That said, I guess cpunks was never good, it's meaningless to attempt to
stop the shitstorm, etc., and so on. But now there are 2-3 posters who
continually post random conspiracy crap and have built an echo chamber
that totally drowns out any actual cypherpunking.

Better posters (you know who you are), please stop encouraging this. 

On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 17:44 -0300, Juan wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20 -0400
> Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> > What's the cypherpunk link in this?
> 
> 
> 	That was part of a discussion on the nature of western
> 	governments and western propaganda. 
> 
> 	Do you think that discussions on the nature of western
> 	governments are off-topic? Maybe banned? 
> 
> 	Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the suffering
> 	of US military murderers is?
> 
> 	paging Nick Econopouly <nickeconopouly at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integrity/ri8092
> > > 
> > > Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over
> > > some time: "So let us recount the western position:
> > >  -   It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial integrity
> > > of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe
> > >  -   However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the
> > > territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be trampled
> > > at will
> > >  -   Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal
> > > Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial integrity
> > > of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy
> > >  -   Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent
> > > republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was holy,
> > > the territorial integrity of Serbia was not
> > >  -   Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave
> > > Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia
> > >  -   Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo
> > > Albanians could secede from Serbia
> > >  -   Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs
> > > could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo
> > >  -   Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under NATO
> > > military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from Ukraine
> > > under Russian military control
> > > 
> > > May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles.
> > > "
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 

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