Pleading the 5th

[Daniel J. Boone]

Inaccurate indeed.  List owner policies have nothing to do with it.  Jim's
assertion, your mockery of it, and my mockery of your similar assertion back in
1997 all had to do with intellectual property rights, not list owner policies.

I am looking forward to hearing you explain that the assertion "you own your
words" is not an assertion about intellectual property rights.  But I'm not
holding my breath....

-- Daniel

----- Original Message -----
From: Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>
To: Daniel J. Boone <djb at gci.net>
Cc: <cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th


> Cute, but inaccurate. I never have questioned the ability of list
> owners to set their own list policies (I am a member of a number of
> mailing lists with do-not-forward policies).
>
> Cypherpunks, on the other hand, is just a little different than a
> private, invite-only mailing list that's run by one person for a specific
> purpose on one server.
>
> -Declan
>
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 09:40:26AM -0800, Daniel J. Boone wrote:
> > I find this hilarious coming from Declan, who once (WAAY back in 1997)
closed
> > one one of his previously open-subscription mailing lists because people
were
> > *gasp* forwarding messages from it to other lists.  His list policy was, if
I
> > recall, "you own your words, no retransmission without your permission" and
he
> > was outraged that some of his subscribers, specifically Hettinga, did not
> > respect these vital intellectual property rights.
> >
> > Now when somebody else makes the same silly assertion he was making, he
calls
> > it silly.  I guess we all grow up eventually....
> >
> > -- Daniel
> >
> > Declan wrote:
> >
> > > The problem with Choate's argument is that (besides that it's silly),
> > > he gives implied consent to redistribute by posting here. Also, as he
claims
> > > to know, CDR is by nature distributed, and each node can set its own
> > > policy. Dont' like it? Don't participate.
> >
> > in response to Choate's:
> >
> > > > I also own the copyright on everything I post to Cypherpunks. If it
gets
> > > > printed without my permission (and I won't give it) in a newspaper or
> > > > other COMMERCIAL venture it is copyright infringement. You're free to
post
> > > > excerpts. I believe ~200 lines is the maximum allowed under current
> > > > copyright law.