CDR: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

L. Sassaman rabbi at quickie.net
Thu Sep 14 14:52:13 PDT 2000


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I've been running an anonymous remailer since DefCon, when a certain
speaker motivated me to set one up. I get on average 1 threat of bodily
harm and 3 threats of lawsuits per day because of this.

To attempt to answer the question "why do you run a remailer", I put up
the page http://www.melontraffickers.com/remailer.html.

This seems to have the effect of further annoying those who would have
anonymous remailers outlawed.

I don't enjoy the fact that some people are being harassed through my
remailer. But I cannot prevent that without limiting the effectiveness of
the remailer. 

Have there been any court rulings that define the level of liability for
remops whose remailers are used to facilitate criminal actions?

Is someone like myself, running a public remailer, considered an ISP? (I'm
thinking of the Prodigy ruling, where Prodigy was deemed not responsible
for content posted on its BBS system.)

- --Len.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:

> Perhaps an analogy might help make the general case for support of free
> speech.
> 
> We may not like what our neighbor is doing with his lawn or house. But it
> is in our best interests, generally speaking, to defend his property
> rights from new laws and regulations because tomorrow our home could be at
> risk.
> 
> -Declan
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Jay Holovacs wrote:
> 
> > How many times do I have to say this. I am *not* protecting them. I am
> > protecting free speech... my free speech, your free speech.
> > 
> > This is much more dangerous than you seem to realize. It's tempting to let
> > them get 'theirs' because their ideas are ugly to many of us. But if they
> > can be held liable for a vicious murder (which they did not advocate or
> > instigate) on the part of someone who read their site... what keeps you from
> > being held accountable for someone who reads your site then kills a gay?
> > 
> 

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L. Sassaman

Security Architect             |  "Lose your dreams and you
Technology Consultant          |   will lose your mind."
                               |   
http://sion.quickie.net        |       --The Rolling Stones



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