Re: [digital-rights-activism] Oklahoma Police and your money!
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:13:16AM -0500, Cryptobits wrote:
It's easier to lose all your money in Oklahoma than it is in Las Vegas! ⋅ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas...
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 09:00:02PM +0000, Jack Liddy wrote:
It's a shame, there was once a a few people (two or more, depending on which version you believe) in Oklahoma who bravely stood up to the authorities and refused to allow their massive overreach. Now this is common place and people are helpless.
"People are helpless" Well, perhaps that's the mindset that results in the few who stand, only to find that almost no one jumps on board. Or perhaps I'm overestimating and you are not one of the few who stood, in which case the only shame is that -you- did not stand with those who did. Now here's a huge firetruckin irony: last year, or perhaps early this year, slashd0t.0rg went through some management process of attempting to monetize the site (again) in a way which some of the users (perhaps most) really did not appreciate. This new website layout issue was evidently a momentous human rights trigger, since saw quite a huge campaign from quite a few members of that website, "troll" the beginning of the comments of EVERY new article, to make their point, and they proclaimed they would not stop until the website reverted to its old layout. And wouldn't you know it? Within a couple weeks (don't quote me) of sustained and diligent and united (amongst the protesters) action, they got what they wanted and the weebsite was mostly reverted back to its old layout. But having your assets/ car /bank account/ life/ anonymity of travel to be raped and pillaged? Seriously, who cares? One or two "constitutional extremists" who protest and my god, the gall of them, even go to court against the respective local, state or federal government organ? Man, how extreme, they're like, you know, like terrorists or something, our whole democracy might crumble or you know, like the end of the world, so nah, can't get up to help them... "riseup"? You're kidding me right? Humans ... get what they f**kin deserve.
On 06/10/2016 06:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:13:16AM -0500, Cryptobits wrote:
It's easier to lose all your money in Oklahoma than it is in Las Vegas! ⋅ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas...
In SOME PLACES they do that, or if they can't, they JAIL YOU (Ferguson, Mo is classic...) In California they go one better. All municipal infractions without criminal penalties are turned over to a state-mandated private collection agency and the municipalities receive a percentage of the value of the tickets. The collection agency then duns you for two years trying to collect then turns them over to the state IRS (Franchise Tax Board) which pays them the uncollected amount. Now... apply that to a houseless jobless person, and there has to be hundreds of thousands, literally, in California, with zero ability to pay sometime HUNDREDS of camping and other nuisance ordinance tickets they might receive over the years. Besides the harassment value of writing those tickets which is repaid to the municipality by the collection agency on receipt, the state's taxpayers pay for the cost of the ticket, and that money is locked into the judicial-law enforcement industrial complex instead of being used to, lets say, build low cost and affordable housing. Providing job development, re-integration services etc. Rr
On 6/10/16, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/10/2016 06:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:13:16AM -0500, Cryptobits wrote:
It's easier to lose all your money in Oklahoma than it is in Las Vegas! ⋅ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas...
In SOME PLACES they do that, or if they can't, they JAIL YOU (Ferguson, Mo is classic...)
Or they... well, you probably don't want to watch this, it's sad... https://player.vimeo.com/video/169710819 https://player.vimeo.com/video/169710782 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNynzhFZzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfxbpEmPa8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySS6KOp6wPY https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/tased-in-the-chest-for-23-seconds-dead-f...
that money is locked into the judicial-law enforcement industrial complex instead of being used to, lets say, build low cost and affordable housing. Providing job development, re-integration services etc.
Sad.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:19:00AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
On 6/10/16, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/10/2016 06:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:13:16AM -0500, Cryptobits wrote:
It's easier to lose all your money in Oklahoma than it is in Las Vegas! ⋅ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas...
In SOME PLACES they do that, or if they can't, they JAIL YOU (Ferguson, Mo is classic...)
Or they... well, you probably don't want to watch this, it's sad...
https://player.vimeo.com/video/169710819 https://player.vimeo.com/video/169710782 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNynzhFZzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfxbpEmPa8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySS6KOp6wPY
Sickening. To average folks - this is what you consent to by default as you continue to fail to oppose, as you continue to do nothing to rights these and so many other wrongs, as you continue to put your mortgage and your kids football practice ahead of any sanity in your own government, your own country's systems of control, domination and bullying. THIS is what you are leaving to your children as they grow up.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/tased-in-the-chest-for-23-seconds-dead-f...
that money is locked into the judicial-law enforcement industrial complex instead of being used to, lets say, build low cost and affordable housing. Providing job development, re-integration services etc.
Sad.
The road to chaos is being well and truly laid in America, and tacitly consented to by the majority of humans in that country.
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