On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 04:38:17PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
but now each message gets a mined timestamp !! > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/O8kA93S8n06-Liq53ui3LJSevPZdBaKN7qeJdgaIjeA#qJdU-ReR4... > > well it's really frightening and dangerous to say, > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ud3zQhB88XH0adan48gFRmcM35mz7d0GeV3yKJ1UZnA#qJdU-ReR4...
> https://ar.anyone.tech/y2TVmzFcbkeOpWte0dPQ3Y0dtOMfNfD3MiKcGpzuB10#NV1O98b23... frowning at coastal villages and unleashing disasters https://ar.anyone.tech/rdBPAD2euwCt6ujADABUuKF3WL3bY9PYUfW5-53NvyQ#Jg-CEUife... note to self that i want to not be irritated. slows trauma recovery. https://ar.anyone.tech/NcOQYJTLaodGAb6624qM-ccDscRF6ya4oDy9sbwSWyQ#o88odFv7W...
partial/incomplete/dropped/corrupted/sent at wrong time
sorries ummmm :>:s
so uhhhh these new workers came to the ohhh wow oop umm maybe i will try at diffrtent time :)
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i'm putting this in morning spam because it seems big and impactful
below considered dangerous unless mutated
1. maybe the halting problem is solvable if the solution prevents diagonalization and such 2. minikanren looks useful for that task! 3. whoah these words 'goal' and 'fact' in minikanren's docs really powerfully trigger my AI inhibitions, why did they use them? maybe i can filter it to remove those words 4. omigod after looking at this "halting decider" workfolder something in me is trying to prevent me from _ever writing any code at all_ and attacking associated things, associated with some story of being a mind controlled spy and having to steal technologies
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Below is the kanren project that stinulated me. <attempts to discuss my history with hobby AI> I have not (yet?) read their paper but I uploaded it to {"id": "nttSN6yBFgGT1PnlIWGELAlx8vchWIq4QHf6efncFF4", "timestamp": 1782850523045, "winc": "0", "version": "0.2.0", "deadlineHeight": 1949753, "dataCaches": ["turbo-gateway.com"], "fastFinalityIndexes": ["turbo-gateway.com"], "public": "wZgP9Rpfh0nXb5EdzBUg7y2LFMkBp2ADX3gdZhLXHYbz4srlYD6FUGn6Tt-WsSYj8faUyA7bNKj9zzcXiN-bsMC73e0yoQ05A_5I2QnBAgCTuzXePvUVCvSCOg1vdh07hSjvSBd1XiWDHw2J-Z7m6lG3l56PDSCp8t-s0PduONcsjqOePFejzkaJymJxMYp7d0g0GL1i1MrBAbf5ohIobyTYQz7bRHLLUpdSgiCiHbSBp092cIQnHYXGBeWb-lBEtMT9Am5GsHeVXq4eL8H83NBPIN4fIOtwpl7zzBUeaD5lTc3UcXliMjFuFJurVmNhqsP_osJMceybk3VIjdP0biqLqt_nRupdPwwJGQ09iyGv0wfzMBlx7zTZ9pp77ZBX3cDnYmWt2IR-mIgOStfiEHu5BuwNGBvGt7-tzHJp9e6IOofN10apfiuF9iQEQ3gFVQDZ7owQ_IrCq5yWLP7ePwYoB2e7ZbvCkd4JM8oOgEMZkywTOx3gLASGKS7wqUerdlYacWRukqg5MmkQRbzJIiY23pPwrhQSWon5q91jbImO6vTaHVDZnd2GoMFlePAsceNO1MaLS6GMuY-EAwOtaX-R1QZUpJmCzWfV-77AmBmaPDCR0mm3f7jy-3yYSCMAkti4idHVq5dIhOJnibd_LEfQtkTAQ5MQlE4uoa5lkJs", "signature": "HZ8B6_3m-7zMaaevas0aYd19EY3PAsA4YHWrnVcGWD1oLwvdrWS7J5CkiZp0gp_G7jbLhSij6gso9Cntm06pVa2nBh4LDvBUFuqtv6c1eAmp9tpOQsw4U_PuLdPcikVTUh9yfOf7qRKsZE3m_x0RCWsVsnV_oxBea-XGZ8MaFcD4Q9rIft0q4o1sMYLEp6ce4kOiVgvN3mShD2tahGt6wNT16uwuRdX8HzfDD4gB7_8jzp2YCxlzDR3MZ5o15hheaDXqHzEKEdEQdZvteJJRA8UoSaXOh-f9cplVHdeH-zMqhYJjo_ftryY4DRa-y-UAAlO1WIQwZja8XQaaI-FSlcFEEcH7rWBmXMl3b79FXujtNgQRwMwe7fKNoe28VegkBuZks7EzFU3eE6Zr8xNe9_gJR8jiRQRhDR1ZVzLBswinZsqdg4rF4FB1zwLxzxhB15J8j2VMN2ejb-aIfiqnf3mmOEPFWy28kRTrG7xWCmBaqq_BaXfSN4dKRiMBy9oE1dyTm7r9h1ecC3V3nANdrdD1NNoKhCgMmiJnIJqTZLdnSckgPKAdVeFb5db7pjhLgK8oDbwOUbYBtTu2LUgD1GcHKGne6_Js_vx3vy5ADauoO-2d0xqisQNQxVy_TQt2jhvYqK1XqHZtJ7yLpwe-CkPzFk5xYh1pZVg1uSGXcrg", "owner": "uJ8Bfxaa39C3dU4a9G9nuomjyhc9p1nVNYdO0bMNJCo", "name": "2005.11644v3.pdf", "size": 661912, "start_height": 1949553, "start_block": "lwy_wLxde2ZbKr9SH5ilqO7KbqM0pkaOx1ElyPftZbDH7eCU_HzEZcByW8PXAL6C", "depth": 2, "_blake2b": "22c9390570fe8cab87d88acae7c6132339f5a880550c6a3fa0e301efecc05fc8e720a9db1528584c7ad8eb1c73a5c69ebc1f762323894095e59c9315109502ab", "_sha256": "d18d4fbeb4335533e1ea0198e11b8ae9975e59b4fbfb189c678299afebbf9410", "off": 0}.
https://github.com/pythological/kanren
# `kanren`
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Logic/relational programming in Python with [miniKanren](http://minikanren.org/).
## Installation
Using `pip`: ```bash pip install miniKanren ```
Using `conda`: ```bash conda install -c conda-forge miniKanren ```
## Development
First obtain the project source: ```bash git clone git@github.com:pythological/kanren.git cd kanren ```
Install the development dependencies:
```bash $ pip install -r requirements.txt ```
Set up `pre-commit` hooks:
```bash $ pre-commit install --install-hooks ```
Tests can be run with the provided `Makefile`: ```bash make check ```
## Motivation
Logic programming is a general programming paradigm. This implementation however came about specifically to serve as an algorithmic core for Computer Algebra Systems in Python and for the automated generation and optimization of numeric software. Domain specific languages, code generation, and compilers have recently been a hot topic in the Scientific Python community. `kanren` aims to be a low-level core for these projects.
These points—along with `kanren` examples—are covered in the paper ["miniKanren as a Tool for Symbolic Computation in Python"](https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.11644).
## Examples
`kanren` enables one to express sophisticated relations—in the form of *goals*—and generate values that satisfy the relations. The following code is the "Hello, world!" of logic programming; it asks for values of the *logic variable* `x` such that `x == 5`:
```python
from kanren import run, eq, membero, var, lall x = var() run(1, x, eq(x, 5)) (5,)
Multiple logic variables and goals can be used simultaneously. The following code asks for one list containing the values of `x` and `z` such that `x == z` **and** `z == 3`: ```python >>> z = var() >>> run(1, [x, z], eq(x, z), eq(z, 3)) ([3, 3],)`kanren` uses [unification](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_%28computer_science%29) to match forms within expression trees. The following code asks for values of `x` such that `(1, 2) == (1, x)`:
```python
run(1, x, eq((1, 2), (1, x))) (2,)
The above examples use `eq`: a *goal constructor* that creates a goal for unification between two objects. Other goal constructors, such as `membero(item, coll)`, express more sophisticated relations and are often constructed from simpler ones like `eq`. More specifically, `membero` states that `item` is a member of the collection `coll`. The following example uses `membero` to ask for *all* values of `x`, such that `x` is a member of `(1, 2, 3)` **and** `x` is a member of `(2, 3, 4)`. ```python >>> run(0, x, membero(x, (1, 2, 3)), # x is a member of (1, 2, 3) membero(x, (2, 3, 4))) # x is a member of (2, 3, 4) (2, 3)The examples above made implicit use of the goal constructors `lall` and `lany`, which represent goal *conjunction* and *disjunction*, respectively. Many useful relations can be expressed with `lall`, `lany`, and `eq` alone, but in `kanren` it's also easy to leverage the host language and explicitly create any relation expressible in Python.
### Representing Knowledge
`kanren` stores data as facts that state relationships between terms. The following code creates a parent relationship and uses it to state facts about who is a parent of whom within the Simpsons family:
```python
from kanren import Relation, facts parent = Relation() facts(parent, ("Homer", "Bart"), ... ("Homer", "Lisa"), ... ("Abe", "Homer"))
run(1, x, parent(x, "Bart")) ('Homer',)
run(2, x, parent("Homer", x)) ('Lisa', 'Bart')
We can use intermediate variables for more complex queries. For instance, who is Bart's grandfather? ```python >>> grandparent_lv, parent_lv = var(), var() >>> run(1, grandparent_lv, parent(grandparent_lv, parent_lv), parent(parent_lv, 'Bart')) ('Abe',)We can express the grandfather relationship as a distinct relation by creating a goal constructor: ```python
def grandparent(x, z): ... y = var() ... return lall(parent(x, y), parent(y, z))
run(1, x, grandparent(x, 'Bart')) ('Abe,')
## Constraints `kanren` provides a fully functional constraint system that allows one to restrict unification and object types: ```python >>> from kanren.constraints import neq, isinstanceo >>> run(0, x, ... neq(x, 1), # Not "equal" to 1 ... neq(x, 3), # Not "equal" to 3 ... membero(x, (1, 2, 3))) (2,) >>> from numbers import Integral >>> run(0, x, ... isinstanceo(x, Integral), # `x` must be of type `Integral` ... membero(x, (1.1, 2, 3.2, 4))) (2, 4)## Graph Relations
`kanren` comes with support for relational graph operations suitable for basic symbolic algebra operations. See the examples in [`doc/graphs.md`](doc/graphs.md).
## Extending `kanren`
`kanren` uses the [`logical-unification` library](https://github.com/pythological/unification) to support pattern matching on user defined types. Essentially, types that can be unified can be used with most `kanren` goals. See the [`logical-unification` project's examples](https://github.com/pythological/unification#examples) for demonstrations of how arbitrary types can be made unifiable.
## About
This project is a fork of [`logpy`](https://github.com/logpy/logpy).
## References
* [Logic Programming on wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_programming) * [miniKanren](http://minikanren.org/), a Scheme library for relational programming on which this library is based. More information can be found in the [thesis of William Byrd](https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2022/8777/Byrd_indiana_0...).
https://ar.anyone.tech/a_2cEOI4MB5OXryyrptLGdokPqtipuq9Rh2ysUPWBEM#r0ntPH9ka... https://ar.anyone.tech/kj410u9D72aS0wpO0DYZ3MphwtSRtS4GGYlgbWorX7k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
quote from minikanren.org:
miniKanren Online Uncourse (via Hangouts on Air)
Will Byrd has organized several weekly miniKanren uncourses. Participants show off miniKanren projects, talk about miniKanren implementation, and do live coding/live research. A link to each week's hangout is posted to the miniKanren uncourse mailing list. "Will Byrd" is a link to http://webyrd.net/ "miniKanren uncourse mailing list" is a link to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/minikanren-uncourse
When i visit thr mailing list link it says "Content unavailable
Click here to try again. If you've seen this page more than once, try switching accounts.". Trying acain gives the same text. I am not presently logged in to a google account. I'd better try that.
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Logging in didnt change it. We Have Solved The Halting Problem! The solution? The universal halting decider calls out to chatgpt, claude, gemini, grok, and other big corporate AI providers in a language model council. The resulting consensus is treated unchecked as the true halting behavior of the program. There Is No Longer Any Need To Execute Code! https://ar.anyone.tech/ewq_MTOWBQjOKRF8cCt9QFLZm8AM7RJG4FOkDo8huvY#_WYD46huI... https://ar.anyone.tech/aA0-6e3fvG9Xft_RKTFMM2fa6BWuyEcvYNs0IrTg_8M I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .