On Wed, 20 Sep 1995, Ian Goldberg wrote:
So, Dave and I got free munitions shirts (they're different, though; the font is smaller and they have a bunch of X'd out Constitutional Amendments on the back; I think they ere designed by Joel Furr) for our bug find.
Good.
So I'm wearing it today. The thing is, I live in International House, a residence that has 50% non-Americans.
So, any consensus as to whether it's actually illegal to do so? I remember some disagreement a few weeks ago that AFAIK wasn't resolved.
As far as I can tell, it's _technically_ illegal, but any LEO would be out of his mind to try to enforce it (it would have to be a Fed, too, wouldn't it? Or can regular city cops get you for violating export restrictions?).
- Ian
Funny, this thread sounds awfully familiar. In fact, I think I wrote almost this _exact same post_ about 3 weeks ago, just substituting "Berkeley" for "Towson State University". I mentioned the fact that I live in the International House of _my_ campus, and we discussed the legality of my wearing it. We hashed over it for a few days, and never really came to a real answer, since ITAR is rather vague in that area. I might add, however, that two days ago I wore my RSA shirt to my sound design class, where the guy I happened to sit down next to recognized it, was familiar with what it stood for, and knew all about the Zimmerman case; not because he was a crypto enthusiast or a comp sci major, but because he works for customs at Baltimore-Washington International Airport. This event really changed my point of view considering ITAR... I figured that it was just one of those dumb laws that _nobody_ really paid much attention to except for the FBI and that was only because they were looking for a way to nail Zimmerman for writing good crypto. I had assumed that ITAR was something that customs agents/L. E. O's/etc. learned about, took a test on it, then forgot about it the next day. Interesting... they _really_ are serious, aren't they? -=me=- kelli@zeus.towson.edu Geek Code v3.0 http://zeus.towson.edu/~kelli/ GAT dx s++:- a-- C++ uu+++ P+ L++ E- W++ N K W--- O- M- V-- PS+++ PE- Y++(-) PGP+>++ t+ 5 x+ R tv b+++ DI- D--- G e h* r+ z** Diverse Sexual Orientation Coll.Towson State University DSOC@zeus.towson.edu "All the world will be your enemy, Prince With The Thousand Enemies. . . And whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first, they must catch you. . ." -Richard Adams