Although Tim is quite happy with Eudora's (or whatever it is) email handeling techniques, I would also prefer a way in which to use my Usenet tools on the cypherpunks list. BUT I think that making it a newgroup opens up the volume to a level far beyond what it is now. It will also result in a far larger level of "noise" due mostly to cross-posts. My plan is to gate cypherpunks to a local newsgroup (local to my machine only) and read it that way. Is it more work for me that way? - yes, but I'ld prefer to do the extra work required than loose what this group has as a mailing list. Now - if someone wants to start a seperate alt.cypherpunks group, but *NOT* gateway this list to it - be my guest. People can then vote with their feet which is the better "medium" or transport method. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Oelke Alcatel Network Systems droelke@aud.alcatel.com Richardson, TX