: > 1. HARDWARE: What about building our own machines? This is the Vinge-ian : > crypto-anarchy theme ultimately. We should be able to produce our own : > technology, and not depend on the merchantile/government-mandated : > economic system/monopolies. : > : > I see this as being very important to the oceania/autopia/technomad : > ideas and projects of creating ocean-going free societies. I agree. Altho we'd probably want to build our own boards, we'd have to rely on commercially availiable integrated circuits and other components. The components we'd need are fairly easy to obtain, and I don't see any reason to believe that we will have difficulty obtaining computer components to build a secret network in the future. Oceania will probably become a major source of electronic privacy technologies, but that's still several years in the future. : > Or is anyone interested in starting a parallel list of sorts for the : > hardware-punks? 'ware-punks? :-) or perhaps an even better name Yes. Who can host the mailing list?