Folks, lay of Netscape on this one. _EVERYONE_ is doing Terissa for the feds to use themselves. There are reporting requirements (FOI) which most people on this list seem to enjoy which make the privacy issue moot. There are other people who do not want to have non escrowed data flowing over their internal nets, nuclear installations etc. When I was involved in the site security area there was no way I would allow messages to be bouncing round the internal net which I could not read. They might well be from trojan horses planted inside the net sending data out. Key escrow is not bad in itself. It is the idea that individuals be forced to use it for private conversations that is the bad idea. If people want to argue "make the technology avaliable and it will be abused" then let them. Just remember that we normally argue the other side of the case. Phill