Matthew J Ghio blew a bubble, which danced and sang: : : I agree. Altho we'd probably want to build our own boards, we'd have to : rely on commercially availiable integrated circuits and other : components. The components we'd need are fairly easy to obtain, and I : don't see any reason to believe that we will have difficulty obtaining : computer components to build a secret network in the future. Oceania : will probably become a major source of electronic privacy technologies, : but that's still several years in the future. Oceania is, but we may be able to set up the network soon, with a bit of effort. Or maybe not, it depends on enthusiasm, I suppose. : : > Or is anyone interested in starting a parallel list of sorts for the : : > hardware-punks? 'ware-punks? :-) or perhaps an even better name : : Yes. Who can host the mailing list? I may be able to. As in, I have a TCP/IP access and a very large account. Is listserv large? Will I get shot if I install it, I wonder. I've been told that any software I want to run I can install it myself, so I _guess_ this means I could run a mailing list...... I'll talk it over with sysadmin, I think. :-/ Dwayne FAQ stolen by dream bandits (Dwayne Jones-Evans IRC, MediaMOO: ddraig ) ( SCA: Cynon Yscolan ap Myrddin, Stormhold, Lochac, West) PGP public key available. finger me. be gentle. internet---> hiscdcj@lux.latrobe.edu.au