[UR-WG] FW: Next phone meeting on 12th of November at 15:00 CEST

Tue Nov 27 10:55:07 EST 2012

Hi All,
I just checked the data in the cloud accounting database we are running for the FedCloud testbed again as I thought we should have some records with network activity data.  Although we do not have the "NetworkType" field used in any of them, we do have data for some records in the "NetworkInbound" and "NetworkOutbound" fields, but just from sites who are running OpenNebula not from sites with OpenStack.

So, I think we should keep those 2 fields.  Do you agree?

I will raise the issue with the FedCloud resource providers regarding getting "NetworkType" information in the cloud records as well.

Thanks,
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori at cnaf.infn.it] 
Sent: 14 November 2012 14:01
To: Packer, Alison (STFC,DL,SC)
Subject: Re: Next phone meeting on 12th of November at 15:00 CEST

Hi Alison,

No problem. I just hope you are better now.
Yesterday we had a look to the "Cloud Accounting Usage Record" 
attributes in your document and I have some question:

- network proprieties  (NetworkType, NetworkInbound, NetworkOutbound) how do you think to measure that? Have you already checked if some metrics are available on different cloud solutions?

- How do you think to use ZoneName and TimeZone? TimeZone we believe is not really needed if in the other timestamps the value is set using for example ISO 8601. It would be implicit. ZoneName looks like a way to group different Site. The accounting portal does several grouping based on different needs (coutry, VO, etc). The grouping for ZoneName might be something that can be set at the portal level.

- SuspendTime: what happens if for example a record spans from time T0 to time T10 and the virtual machine was suspended from T4 to T6? To avoid problem you should force to write a new record if the machine come back from the suspend. Instead of the moment in which the machine was suspended we thought that it might be better to use this attribute for the amount of time the machine was suspended in the interval T10 - T0.

What do you think?
Next phone meeting is fixed for Tuesday the 27th of November. If you can you are welcome to join the discussion.
You can find the last update to our document here:

https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/12966?download=

Did you tried to register to the redmine web page?

Cheers,
Andrea

On 11/14/2012 10:49 AM, alison.packer at stfc.ac.uk wrote:
> Andrea,
> I am very sorry I missed this meeting because I have been off sick.
>
> Thanks,
> Alison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori at cnaf.infn.it]
> Sent: 12 November 2012 14:56
> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
> Cc: Packer, Alison (STFC,DL,SC)
> Subject: Next phone meeting on 12th of November at 15:00 CEST
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to remind you tomorrow phone meeting at 15:00 CEST. We are continuing the improvements to the UR definition that we might discuss during the phone.  At this address you can find the latest version of our document:
>
> https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/12964?download=
>
> We made some clean up (more work is of course needed).
>
> Please also note the inclusion of a new block CloudUsageBlock which 
> includes some attributes that we could use for cloud accounting. The 
> same attributes and a comparison with the attributes present in the 
> "Cloud Accounting Usage Record Schema" definition
> (https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/Fedcloud-tf:WorkGroups:Scenario4 provided by Alison Packer in CC) is presented in the Attribute Matrix.
> The only attributes that have no correspondence at this time are those dealing with network usage and TimeZone and ZoneName.
> If you can not be present to tomorrow phone meeting please have a look in advance to the document and send some comments. Thank you.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrea
>
>
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> Skype: andrea-cnaf
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