[ur-wg] Concall meeting notes - 8 June 06

[Laura F McGinnis]

On call: Laura, Sven, Stephen, Donal, Matt

1) Discussion of Donal's Strawman
	++ All elements are documented, to make the schema a bit easier to
comprehend
	++ Compound Usage Record (CUR) - can be composed of CURs
	++ Atomic Activity Usage Record - instead of contentiously-named
"job"
	++ Key fields:
		Record Identity
		End Time
		Start Time
		User Identity
	++ This structure should allow atomic records to be more easily
collected

2) Identity
	?? Can a usage record have a non-human "owner"
	++ Atomic record should have a user identity; CUR may or may not
have user identity
	++ Note that the Record Identity also has an additional ID field in
it
	?? What types of Identities are needed?
		++ Record
		++ User
		++ Resource
		?? Organization

3) How different is Donal's strawman from what we've already got?
	Very: probably a version 2.0 (given that the current version is 1.0)
	++ Addressing the comments should give us a credible v1.0, but will
it be usable?
		++ There are already sites ("Early Adopters") using their
interpretations of v1.0; can't alienate them
		++ GFSG would also like to see v1.0 "done"
		++ v2.0 is still a valid pursuit, tho
	++ Will need to consider providing mappings between v1.0 and v2.0

4) Where do we go from here?
	++ Wrap up v1.0, but include a promise of v2.0
	++ v2.0 development can occur concurrently with v1.0 wrap up; will
help inform some of the responses
	++ Need to engage Early Adopters in v2.0 development
	++ v1.0 is primarily an editor task at this point;
		ACTION ITEM (Laura): 
			++ Respond to gridforge comments via mailing list
			++ Mark changes in v1.0 document with footnotes for
UR-WG members to note
			++ Once mailing list grants consensus, post to
gridforge comment and close
	++ Donal will continue to work on v2.0 as time (and peer pressure
:)) permit

Thx
LM

 
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Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator
Data & Information Resource Services
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center                      email: lfm at psc.edu
300 South Craig St, #313                             phone: 412-268-5642
Pittsburgh, PA  15213                                  fax: 412-268-5832
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