[ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate Accounting Record
Hiro Kishimoto
hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com
Mon Jul 31 20:34:53 CDT 2006
Hi Stephen,
Emails are archived as usual. But at this moment, archive server and
web front server are not collocated. Joel is working on this and I
hope to fix in the near future.
Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto
Stephen M Pickles wrote:
> The last month of email aren't appearing in the archives
> for any GGF working group, as far as I can tell.
>
> I'll ask.
>
> Stephen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ur-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ur-wg at ggf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Akram Khan
>> Sent: 31 July 2006 15:09
>> To: Laura F McGinnis
>> Cc: ur-wg at ggf.org
>> Subject: RE: [ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation
>> request: Aggregate Accounting Record
>>
>> Laura,
>>
>> we have post the AAR document for discussion but I still do
>> not understand
>> the logical of the email archieve:
>>
>> http://www.psc.edu/~lfm/PSC/Grid/UR-WG/
>> click on "mailing list: View by Date", and get a error
>> (Firefox can't find
>> the server at www-unix.gridforum.org). Then I change the url to
>> http://www.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ur-wg/maillist.html but
>> get only a
>> list of mail archive upto June 2006.
>>
>> I do not see any emails for July (which should have been sent)? Sorry
>> about these basic question...
>>
>> cheers
>> akram
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Laura F McGinnis wrote:
>>
>>> Akram -
>>>
>>> GGF just recently upgraded the gridforge website. It looks
>> like they have
>>> not yet integrated the old email archives into the new
>> site. I'll follow up
>>> with the GGF technology team to figure out what's up.
>>>
>>> For now, you can find the archives anchored at
>>> http://www.psc.edu/~lfm/PSC/Grid/UR-WG/, listed on the
>> Administrivia side of
>>> the page. This website also has links to all of the
>> previous documents and
>>> concall notes.
>>>
>>> Thx
>>> LM
>>>
>>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++++
>>> Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator
>>> Data & Information Resource Services
>>> Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
>> email: lfm at psc.edu
>>> 300 South Craig St, #313 phone:
>> 412-268-5642
>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 fax:
>> 412-268-5832
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++++
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Akram Khan [mailto:akram at slac.stanford.edu]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:14 PM
>>>> To: Laura F McGinnis
>>>> Subject: Re: [ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation
>>>> request: Aggregate Accounting Record
>>>>
>>>> Hello Laura,
>>>>
>>>> I total agree and we will upload the document but Iam have
>>>> pronlem in finding where the dicussion posting iss? I go to the :
>>>>
>>>> http://forge.ggf.org/sf/projects/ur-wg
>>>>
>>>> then click on "Discussions"
>>>>
>>>> and find nothing! Did I miss the or is the discussion on
>> other page?
>>>>
>>>> best wishes
>>>> akram
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Laura F McGinnis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for including me in this discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The topic of an aggregate accounting record is being
>>>> discussed in the
>>>>> Usage Record Working group. Donal Fellows (of Manchester
>>>> University in
>>>>> the UK) is working on version 2 of the UR
>> specification, which is
>>>>> intended to be more conducive to aggregation than the
>>>> original specification (version 1) was.
>>>>> I would like to continue discussion of the AAR with you
>> and anyone
>>>>> you're working with, within the context of the Usage
>> Record Working
>>>>> Group. I have included the UR-WG on this email. Could you
>>>> please bring
>>>>> us up to date on what you've been working on and what your
>>>> plans are?
>>>>> Also, if you have a draft of this document, please pass it
>>>> on to the group.
>>>>> Thx
>>>>> LM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> ++++++++++
>>>>> Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator Data &
>> Information Resource
>>>>> Services
>>>>> Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
>>>> email: lfm at psc.edu
>>>>> 300 South Craig St, #313 phone:
>>>> 412-268-5642
>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 fax:
>>>> 412-268-5832
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> ++++++++++
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre at merzky.net]
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:47 PM
>>>>>> To: Xiaoyu Chen
>>>>>> Cc: Andre Merzky; lfm at psc.edu; Joel Replogle
>>>>>> Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
>>>>>> Accounting Record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Xiaoyu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if its an document which goes into the UR-WG project, you
>>>> don't need
>>>>>> to create a new project (that is what you did).
>>>>>> You should do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - login to grid forge http://forge.ggf.org/
>>>>>> - go to the project home
>> http://forge.ggf.org/sf/projects/ur-wg
>>>>>> - click on the 'Document' toll tab (top)
>>>>>> - select the right folder the doc should go to
>>>>>> - select 'Create' to create a document entry, and upload
>>>>>> the document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To upload documents, you need to be a member of the group.
>>>>>> As you were not group member, I made you one (you have two SF
>>>>>> logins, xchen and x_chen, I picked xchen).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Cc Laura McGinnis, who chairs the group.
>>>>>> Laura, is that ok?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting [Xiaoyu Chen] (Jul 27 2006):
>>>>>>> hi, Andre:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am totally confused!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am working for LCG and defined an aggregate accounting
>>>>>>> schema which is supposed to be uploaded. If i am right, the
>>>>>> schema and
>>>>>>> draft specification should go to GGF-URWG.
>>>>>>> So what should i do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> School of Engineering and Design
>>>>>>> Mobile: Mobile: ++44(0)7871876894
>>>>>>> X. Chen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre at merzky.net]
>>>>>>> Sent: 27/07/2006 (??????) 16:13
>>>>>>> To: Xiaoyu Chen
>>>>>>> Cc: Joel Replogle
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
>>>>>>> Accounting Record
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Xiaoyu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we have been discussion the creation of new GridForge
>>>>>> projects, and it
>>>>>>> seems I was somewhat rash to confirm the project creation
>>>>>> for you. In
>>>>>>> fact, we think that projects should not get created
>> unless the
>>>>>>> respective groups did undergo the correct chartering
>>>>>> process, and have
>>>>>>> acceptance from their ADs etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For chartering a new group, please use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?new
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (your GridForge loging is valid there). If a group is
>>>> created, we
>>>>>>> will automatically create a GF project page for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to have separate projects for work which is
>>>> done in an
>>>>>>> existing group, please try first to do that work with
>>>> that groups
>>>>>>> project - let us know if that meets any technical
>> challenges.
>>>>>>> So, I removed the projects again (fortunately they still
>>>>>> seems empty),
>>>>>>> and hope that you can work on either to create a new group,
>>>>>> or to use
>>>>>>> a current group project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards, sorry for the confusion,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoting [Andre Merzky] (Jul 27 2006):
>>>>>>>> Hi Xiaoyu,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> would it be possible to use an acronym for the
>>>> project, such as
>>>>>>>> 'AAR'? Also, is that intended to be a WG or RG? Then we
>>>>>> would very
>>>>>>>> much prefer 'AAR-WG' or 'AAR-RG', in order to keep
>>>> the project
>>>>>>>> naming in GridForge somewhat consistent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andre.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoting [SourceForge Administrator] (Jul 27 2006):
>>>>>>>>> From: SourceForge Administrator <ggf-it at ggf.org>
>>>>>>>>> To: Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
>>>>>>>>> Accounting Record
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:17:23 -0500 (CDT)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A new project was requested.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Title: Aggregate Accounting Record
>>>>>>>>> Name:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Description: This project recommends representation
>>>> format for
>>>>>>>>> aggregate usage record that encapsulates high-level view
>>>>>>>>> information for different accounting user agents.
>>>>>> Extending from
>>>>>>>>> GGF-UR, the aggregate schema is to facilitate common
>>>>>> extensibility
>>>>>>>>> for data sharing between multiple sites and Grid
>>>>>> infrastructures.
>>>>>>>>> Some element names are redefined from GGF-UR
>> standard for
>>>>>>>>> usage conventions in real Grid environment.
>> Although this
>>>>>> document does
>>>>>>>>> not intend to recommend the usage of an aggregate usage
>>>>>> record and
>>>>>>>>> underlying transport mechanism, it is proposed to
>>>> facilitate
>>>>>>>>> resource usage service based on implementation
>>>> experiences and
>>>>>>>>> potential issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requested By: Xiaoyu Chen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Approve or reject the project by visiting:
>>>>>>>>>
>> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/global/do/viewProjectRequest/rqst100
>>>>>>>>> 9
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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