[ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate Accounting Record
Stephen M Pickles
Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk
Mon Jul 31 09:49:26 CDT 2006
The last month of email aren't appearing in the archives
for any GGF working group, as far as I can tell.
I'll ask.
Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ur-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ur-wg at ggf.org] On
> Behalf Of Akram Khan
> Sent: 31 July 2006 15:09
> To: Laura F McGinnis
> Cc: ur-wg at ggf.org
> Subject: RE: [ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation
> request: Aggregate Accounting Record
>
> Laura,
>
> we have post the AAR document for discussion but I still do
> not understand
> the logical of the email archieve:
>
> http://www.psc.edu/~lfm/PSC/Grid/UR-WG/
> click on "mailing list: View by Date", and get a error
> (Firefox can't find
> the server at www-unix.gridforum.org). Then I change the url to
> http://www.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ur-wg/maillist.html but
> get only a
> list of mail archive upto June 2006.
>
> I do not see any emails for July (which should have been sent)? Sorry
> about these basic question...
>
> cheers
> akram
>
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Laura F McGinnis wrote:
>
> > Akram -
> >
> > GGF just recently upgraded the gridforge website. It looks
> like they have
> > not yet integrated the old email archives into the new
> site. I'll follow up
> > with the GGF technology team to figure out what's up.
> >
> > For now, you can find the archives anchored at
> > http://www.psc.edu/~lfm/PSC/Grid/UR-WG/, listed on the
> Administrivia side of
> > the page. This website also has links to all of the
> previous documents and
> > concall notes.
> >
> > Thx
> > LM
> >
> >
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++
> > Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator
> > Data & Information Resource Services
> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
> email: lfm at psc.edu
> > 300 South Craig St, #313 phone:
> 412-268-5642
> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 fax:
> 412-268-5832
> >
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Akram Khan [mailto:akram at slac.stanford.edu]
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:14 PM
> > > To: Laura F McGinnis
> > > Subject: Re: [ur-wg] RE: SourceForge project creation
> > > request: Aggregate Accounting Record
> > >
> > > Hello Laura,
> > >
> > > I total agree and we will upload the document but Iam have
> > > pronlem in finding where the dicussion posting iss? I go to the :
> > >
> > > http://forge.ggf.org/sf/projects/ur-wg
> > >
> > > then click on "Discussions"
> > >
> > > and find nothing! Did I miss the or is the discussion on
> other page?
> > >
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > > akram
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Laura F McGinnis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for including me in this discussion.
> > > >
> > > > The topic of an aggregate accounting record is being
> > > discussed in the
> > > > Usage Record Working group. Donal Fellows (of Manchester
> > > University in
> > > > the UK) is working on version 2 of the UR
> specification, which is
> > > > intended to be more conducive to aggregation than the
> > > original specification (version 1) was.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to continue discussion of the AAR with you
> and anyone
> > > > you're working with, within the context of the Usage
> Record Working
> > > > Group. I have included the UR-WG on this email. Could you
> > > please bring
> > > > us up to date on what you've been working on and what your
> > > plans are?
> > > > Also, if you have a draft of this document, please pass it
> > > on to the group.
> > > >
> > > > Thx
> > > > LM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > ++++++++++
> > > > Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator Data &
> Information Resource
> > > > Services
> > > > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
> > > email: lfm at psc.edu
> > > > 300 South Craig St, #313 phone:
> > > 412-268-5642
> > > > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 fax:
> > > 412-268-5832
> > > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > ++++++++++
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre at merzky.net]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:47 PM
> > > > > To: Xiaoyu Chen
> > > > > Cc: Andre Merzky; lfm at psc.edu; Joel Replogle
> > > > > Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
> > > > > Accounting Record
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Xiaoyu,
> > > > >
> > > > > if its an document which goes into the UR-WG project, you
> > > don't need
> > > > > to create a new project (that is what you did).
> > > > > You should do:
> > > > >
> > > > > - login to grid forge http://forge.ggf.org/
> > > > > - go to the project home
> http://forge.ggf.org/sf/projects/ur-wg
> > > > > - click on the 'Document' toll tab (top)
> > > > > - select the right folder the doc should go to
> > > > > - select 'Create' to create a document entry, and upload
> > > > > the document.
> > > > >
> > > > > To upload documents, you need to be a member of the group.
> > > > > As you were not group member, I made you one (you have two SF
> > > > > logins, xchen and x_chen, I picked xchen).
> > > > >
> > > > > I Cc Laura McGinnis, who chairs the group.
> > > > > Laura, is that ok?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps,
> > > > >
> > > > > Andre.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting [Xiaoyu Chen] (Jul 27 2006):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hi, Andre:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am totally confused!
> > > > > >
> > > > > I am working for LCG and defined an aggregate accounting
> > > > > > schema which is supposed to be uploaded. If i am right, the
> > > > > schema and
> > > > > > draft specification should go to GGF-URWG.
> > > > > > So what should i do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > School of Engineering and Design
> > > > > > Mobile: Mobile: ++44(0)7871876894
> > > > > > X. Chen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre at merzky.net]
> > > > > > Sent: 27/07/2006 (??????) 16:13
> > > > > > To: Xiaoyu Chen
> > > > > > Cc: Joel Replogle
> > > > > > Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
> > > > > > Accounting Record
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Xiaoyu,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we have been discussion the creation of new GridForge
> > > > > projects, and it
> > > > > > seems I was somewhat rash to confirm the project creation
> > > > > for you. In
> > > > > > fact, we think that projects should not get created
> unless the
> > > > > > respective groups did undergo the correct chartering
> > > > > process, and have
> > > > > > acceptance from their ADs etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For chartering a new group, please use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?new
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (your GridForge loging is valid there). If a group is
> > > created, we
> > > > > > will automatically create a GF project page for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you want to have separate projects for work which is
> > > done in an
> > > > > > existing group, please try first to do that work with
> > > that groups
> > > > > > project - let us know if that meets any technical
> challenges.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I removed the projects again (fortunately they still
> > > > > seems empty),
> > > > > > and hope that you can work on either to create a new group,
> > > > > or to use
> > > > > > a current group project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards, sorry for the confusion,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andre.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quoting [Andre Merzky] (Jul 27 2006):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Xiaoyu,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > would it be possible to use an acronym for the
> > > project, such as
> > > > > > > 'AAR'? Also, is that intended to be a WG or RG? Then we
> > > > > would very
> > > > > > > much prefer 'AAR-WG' or 'AAR-RG', in order to keep
> > > the project
> > > > > > > naming in GridForge somewhat consistent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andre.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Quoting [SourceForge Administrator] (Jul 27 2006):
> > > > > > > > From: SourceForge Administrator <ggf-it at ggf.org>
> > > > > > > > To: Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>
> > > > > > > > Subject: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate
> > > > > > > > Accounting Record
> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:17:23 -0500 (CDT)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A new project was requested.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Title: Aggregate Accounting Record
> > > > > > > > Name:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Description: This project recommends representation
> > > format for
> > > > > > > > aggregate usage record that encapsulates high-level view
> > > > > > > > information for different accounting user agents.
> > > > > Extending from
> > > > > > > > GGF-UR, the aggregate schema is to facilitate common
> > > > > extensibility
> > > > > > > > for data sharing between multiple sites and Grid
> > > > > infrastructures.
> > > > > > > > Some element names are redefined from GGF-UR
> standard for
> > > > > > > > usage conventions in real Grid environment.
> Although this
> > > > > document does
> > > > > > > > not intend to recommend the usage of an aggregate usage
> > > > > record and
> > > > > > > > underlying transport mechanism, it is proposed to
> > > facilitate
> > > > > > > > resource usage service based on implementation
> > > experiences and
> > > > > > > > potential issues.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Requested By: Xiaoyu Chen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Approve or reject the project by visiting:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/global/do/viewProjectRequest/rqst100
> > > > > > > > 9
> > > > > --
> > > > > "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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