[sn-cg] where to fit into OGF standards

Yoder, Alan agy at netapp.com
Wed Mar 21 19:18:45 CDT 2007


To really make the point of the demo, we need
some poster material that shows how the 
economics work.  The case for cloned boot
LUNs is really pretty compelling:

 * diskless compute servers
	- no state to rebuild when one breaks
	- reduced power and cooling requirements
	- reduced footprint in blade configs

 * cloned boot LUNs
	- reduced storage requirements 
	  (~5% marginal space cost per server)
	- hypervisor-like ability to provision
	  any one of many stored OS+application
	  images

I'm guessing a real analysis will show that if
a high-end array is serving ten compute server
images from the same base image, the cost per
running instance is lower than if a JBOD were
used, and the images merely copied.  And
performance would be quite a bit better too.

What do you think?

Alan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHRIS.KANTARJIEV at ORACLE.COM 
> [mailto:CHRIS.KANTARJIEV at ORACLE.COM] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:01 PM
> To: Yoder, Alan
> Cc: sn-cg at ogf.org
> Subject: RE: [sn-cg] where to fit into OGF standards
> 
> 
> 
> > The stuff we're trying to put together now doesn't
> > have anything to do with anything that OGF has
> > done, to my knowledge.  
> 
> That's pretty much my point. We need to figure out how to 
> attract interest, or stop pretending that we're trying to 
> work with OGF.
> 
> > I'd like to steer away from ByteIO, personally.  We
> > should work on leveraging the ability of storage
> > systems to do direct transfers.  To that end, a 
> > rework of GridFTP in ANSI C would be very useful.
> > The present implementation in Globus requires one
> > to install most of the known universe before using it.
> 
> If we don't provide ByteIO, we won't get anyone to pay 
> attention. That doesn't in any way mean that we should *only* 
> provide ByteIO. We can do a lot better.
> 
> But think of this as the "free candy" that we want to offer first.
> 
> And I wouldn't count on anything interesting from GridFTP in 
> the forseeable future. We can't even get the document authors 
> to pay attention long enough to finish publishing it as a standard.
> 


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