[scrm-wg] Cloud Standards/SCRM meeting Monday 3/1

[Craig.A.Lee at aero.org]

All,

What a lively debate -- hopefully it will generate more light than heat ;->

What has always struck me about any standards process is that there 
is a technical kernel of a problem wrapped in a maelstrom of social 
and market processes.  I find myself trying to do what amounts to 
social engineering in an effort to move the technical ball forward. 
I'd be more than happy to discuss how we can move the technical ball 
forward through whatever set of demos that address major stakeholder 
requirements, and recruit all those that would like to participate 
and sponsor.  Demos can be a forcing function that gets us past the 
powerpoint engineering and perhaps facilitate an emergent dominant 
practice.  We only need to decide where, when, how, etc.  (All 
trivial decisions ;->)

--Craig


At 3:03 PM -0800 2/26/10, Krishna Sankar (ksankar) wrote:
>Good, let us start buying mailing lists and marketing materials. 
>That is a good way to start interoperability. What exactly is this 
>followers crap ? Are we buying into a cult ?
>
>Cheers
><k/>
>
>From: cloudstandards at googlegroups.com 
>[mailto:cloudstandards at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Warner
>Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:53 AM
>To: cloudstandards at googlegroups.com; Mailing List for SCRM-WG
>Cc: Bob Marcus; Reuven Cohen
>Subject: Re: Cloud Standards/SCRM meeting Monday 3/1
>
>Laboring in anonymity?  Why not just disband all together as that 
>will provide the ultimate cloak of invisibility.
>
>Successful standards aren't those with superior technical meat.  A 
>standard gains mainstream adoption because people think "everyone 
>else" is using it.  To that end, Reuven has compiled an impressive 
>cadre of followers.  Why would anyone want to turn them away?
>
>What would be the reason to soldier on in a bunker when we can bring 
>many others into the fold?
>
>Jim Warner
>
>
>On 2/26/10 12:35 PM, "Krishna Sankar (ksankar)" <<>ksankar at cisco.com> wrote:
>With due respect to Reuven and his work, I do *not* think this group 
>should anything with CCIF. Let us labor in anonymity and attract 
>membership (and mindshare) by our work and demos.
>Just my ~$0.02.
>Cheers
><k/>
>
>
>From: <>cloudstandards at googlegroups.com 
>[<mailto:cloudstandards at googlegroups.com>mailto:cloudstandards at googlegroups.com] 
>On Behalf Of Mark A. Carlson
>Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:28 AM
>To: <>CloudStandards at googlegroups.com; Mailing List for SCRM-WG
>Cc: Bob Marcus; Reuven Cohen
>Subject: Cloud Standards/SCRM meeting Monday 3/1
>
>6am PDT, 7am MDT, 9am EDT, 10 pm JST
>
>Call info:
>
>(866)5455227 code: 6300276#
>International: (215) 446-3648
>
>Agenda:
>
>Reuven Cohen has offered to turn over the CCIF google group 
><<http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum>http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum> 
> forum
>for use by this group. Here are the resources that he has accumulated:
>
>1. 1170 members on the Google Group
>2. #1 result for cloud interoperability among others.
>3. Linkedin Groups, 1,375 Members
>4. Twitter Account, @CloudForum > 4931 followers
>5. www.cloudforum.org 
><<http://www.cloudforum.org>http://www.cloudforum.org>  > SEO Page 
>rank of 5 (which is really good)
>6. Attendee & sponsorship Lists from the events in New York and San Franciso
>
>We will discuss if it makes sense to use this as a broader discussion group
>around open cloud standards.
>
>Cloud Demo update - Mark
>
>Cloud Wiki Updates?
><http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page>http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
>SCRM Wiki Updates?
><https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1479>https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1479
>
>Events updates?
><http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=CloudStandards:Current_events>http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=CloudStandards:Current_events
>
>Cloud Standards Google Group:
><http://groups.google.com/group/CloudStandards>http://groups.google.com/group/CloudStandards
>
>Cloud Demo Google Group:
><http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-demo>http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-demo
>
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