[saga-rg] Minutes from 1. session of SAGA-RG at GGF17

[Thilo Kielmann]

Meeting of SAGA-RG at GGF17
1st meeting, may 10, 1:45 - 3:15

Session chaired by Shantenu Jha
Notes taken by Andre Merzky, Thilo Kielmann

Agenda:
- agenda bashing
- group progress
- requirements document

Shantenu opens the session, circulates the sign-up sheet, referring to
GGF's IPR pollicy.

agenda bashing:
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the agenda is accepted "as is" by the participants


group progress:
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SAGA-RG's Use case document has been published as GFD.70

SAGA-RG's Requirements documents is now in public comments period


requirements document:
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Shantenu is summarizing the findings of the requirements document,
asking for comments and proposals to approach the missing pieces of
the intended scope of SAGA 1.0.

    - monitoring:
      - comment: globus is giving insufficient info on job status
      - answer:  is backend problem, not API problem

      - comment: what do you mean by steering
      - answer:  track and change parameters of running applications

    - RPC: 
      - not covered, but needed, in work -> have a design team

    - bulk:
      - comment: what means bulk - more than 2?
      - answer:  bulk is just optimization, and API should not hinder
        optimized implementations

    - comment: replace 'saga version 2' with 'future saga versions'

    - resource discovery/information
      - comment (Michael Russell): Res. Discovery crucial for portal
        centered use cases, and probably for interactive usage 
        in general
      - comment (Dieter, others): why handle security at all, if no
        general paradigm can be defined/found?
      - answer: why indeed :-)  That is why we limit ourself to
        minimal approach (context), and use only paradigms as
        available and acknowledged (ACL)

    - CPR:
      - no resources to advance docs/API
      - want/need feedback from API
      - take offline time in Tokyo and draft API
      - circulate docs as are on the SAGA list

    - prioritize
      - 5 items identified, with no clear priority
      - RPC                (rpc-wg)
      - CPR                (Derek, Thilo, Shantenu)
      - InfoService        (Andre)
      - Message            (Andrei, Andre)
      - resource discovery (simple)

At 3:15 the session is closed.