[saga-rg] Short Strawman versions

[Andre Merzky]

Quoting [Thilo Kielmann] (Aug 04 2005):
> 
> 2. there should be a "SAGA cookbook"
>    MPI failed on this respect and good books came out only late,
>    delaying the uptake of MPI significantly.
> 
>    I would thus suggest that a SAGA cookbook gets written as soon as
>    possible, maybe as part of the Wiki?

I think we should do that as soon as the API and the first
implementation stabelizes somewhat - otherwise the
maintainance effort is too high.  But you are right, we
should have that ready with the first releases...

A.


> My 2 cents,
> 
> 
> Thilo
> 
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 08:57:16AM +0200, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > 
> > Well, the question is what do you want to do, really.  Just
> > submit a job, just copy a file, just replicate one, just
> > open a stream...  In itself the use cases are simple, if you
> > take them all together its getting a large API.
> > 
> > Session handle and security are designed to have sensible
> > default values - so you don't need to touch them.  We should
> > make that very clear.  E.g., if there is a X509 proxy for
> > your user id lying around, the default session handle (which
> > you won't even see) should have a X509 context attached
> > automatically.
> > 
> > Now, the qeustion really is: is it still too complex, or are
> > we cleverly hiding the simplicity? :-D
> > 
> > I assume that I am somewhat blinkered due to my daily dose
> > of SAGA - I think its blindingly simple, and we just need
> > good examples (e.g. map API to our use cases) to make that
> > obvious.  I might be wrong though...?
> > 
> > Andre.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting [Steven Newhouse] (Aug 03 2005):
> > > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:40:35 +0100
> > > From: Steven Newhouse <sjn5 at doc.ic.ac.uk>
> > > To: Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>
> > > CC: Simple API for Grid Applications WG <saga-rg at ggf.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [saga-rg] Short Strawman versions
> > > 
> > > >Is it merily confusing (== not simple) because its so much,
> > > 
> > > The basic entry point involves too many 'simple' interfaces. If I just 
> > > want to submit a job, what do I want to deal with? The session (probably 
> > > not) & security (probably yes) APIs?
> > > 
> > > Steven
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