[pgm-rg] GGF!3 Session 1 Notes

[Laura McGinnis]

Attached are the notes from the first PGM-RG session agt GGF13 in Seoul. I 
have also pasted a text version below, for comments and conversation.

thx
LM

Production Grid Management (PGM-RG)
Session 1 - Group Business: Status, Logistics, etc.

PGM-RG: Session 1 - Agenda
•       Merger
–       New charter review
–       Old business resolution
–       Merger next steps and commitments
•       Open Documents
–       Grid Constitution
–       Tools and Requirements
–       Next steps and commitments
•       Workshop Planning
–       Brainstorm topics & co-sponsors
–       Workshop next steps and commitments
•       GGF13 Open Session
–       Agenda Review
–       Meeting Management
–       Follow-up Strategies
•       Other topics?
•       Review and wrap-up

PGM-RG + GUS-RG = ?

[The name “Production Grid Services” was recommended for the merged group. 
Other ideas are welcome and will be put to the mailing list for consensus.]

•       Grid User Services has asked us to consider merging with them
–       Areas of focus have strong overlap
–       Both groups lack critical mass of active participants
•       Need to:
–       Approve New Charter
–       Resolve old issues from both groups
–       Request and receive approval from GGF management

PGM+GUS: New Charter

[Document is available on the mailing list. Put it on the gridforge site, also]

Purpose: The purpose of this group is to bring together grid practitioners 
to document experiences, identify best practice and develop informational 
documents. These documents are offered as suggested guides to organizations 
moving a grid to the persistent level. This group also explores new 
paradigms in supporting grids that aspire to become large-scale grids with 
a large user/application base, while not excluding the small grid efforts. 
In addition, this forum can be used to discuss problems and concerns that 
are likely to be encountered, technical as well as non-technical, when 
moving grid testbeds to production environments. This group should have an 
ongoing presence in GGF, serving a SIG/UG purpose in the grid community.

[Identity of the group converged on the ideas that the group serves as a 
clearinghouse for organizational knowledge, and exists to make sure users & 
site people have a voice in grid mgt & development]
Goals:
G-1) Identify technical and non-technical issues that need to be addressed 
for a production grid installation to be successful.
G-2) Develop "common practices" documents for critical issues as they are 
identified.
G-3) Facilitate opportunities for grid users and practitioners to share 
experiences in bringing grids to production.
G-4) Spin off Working Groups when the need for detailed GGF documents (e.g. 
recommendations) is identified.

Milestones:
M-1) Grid Constitution Document - spin off WG to complete
M-2) PGM Survey
M-3) Tools Document - to be completed by current team (had been submitted 
to GGF Editor)
M-4) Trouble Ticket Document - reevaluate interest, identify authors for 
this document; spin off WG if warranted
M-5) Workshops

Chairs:
•       David Wallom, University of Bristol, UK
•       Judith Utley, USA
•       Laura McGinnis, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, USA



PGM+GUS: Open Documents

•       Grid Constitution
[96% complete; David Wallom will finish, with input from the mailing list]
•       Tools and Requirements
•       Next steps and commitments

PGM-RG: Workshop Planning

[What about doing workshops on the access grid?
·       Can get ppl from the trenches who generally are unable to travel, 
especially to GGF meetings, since they’re busy doing the “real” work. ]

[It was also recommended that we consider offering workshops at non-GGF 
events (e.g UK All-Hands Meetings]

•       Brainstorm topics & co-sponsors
[New Ideas:
·       Cost modeling workshop  Bruce Barkstrom 
(bruce.r.barkstrom at nasa.gov; from NASA Langley)  could do a tutorial for 
GGF next spring (GGF16)
·       Usage Record Format  Authors + Sites that are using it
·       Site Testing for Production Environments
]

•       Workshop next steps and commitments
[Next workshops:
·       Apps-RG has asked us to work with them on a workshop for GGF14; 
details will be sent out to the list shortly
·       GGF Usage Record Format: Implementations & Issues (GGF15)
·       Cost Modeling (GGF16)]

GGF13: Session 2 Prep
•       Open session for “new” members
–       Tuesday, 14 March
–       5:00-6:30pm
–       Sapphire Ballroom 2
•       Agenda
•       Meeting Management
•       Follow-up Strategies

GGF13: Open Session Agenda
•       RG Introductions
–       Charter
–       Leadership introductions
–       History
–       Communication
•       website
•       mailing list
–       Topics Being Addressed by the RG
•       Documents
–       Completed
–       In progress
•       Workshops
–       Completed
–       Proposed
•       Open Forum

GGF13 Open Session
•       Meeting Management  Who will be doing what?
•       More interim meetings? Access Grid?


GGF13 Open Session
•       Follow-up Strategies

GGF13: Other Topics

GGF13: Wrap-up
•       Charter  [Laura & David will clean up & circulate to the list for 
consensus]
•       Documents
•       [David will finish the Constitution
•       Still need volunteers for Tools Requirements and Ticket Systems 
documents]
•       Workshops
•       [As noted above]
•       Open Session



Laura F. McGinnis
Project Coordinator: Data & Information Resource Services
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center        4400 Fifth Avenue, # 
409D       Pittsburgh, PA 15213
email: lfm at psc.edu                      voice: 
412-268-5642             fax: 412-268-5832
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