[Pgi-wg] Promised document

[Morris Riedel]

Yeah,

  I agree on this one document Oxana - but with obviously two fronts already established it's hard to agree on one and that's why I proposed to have this factsheet approach with both voices in it per item/operation - but this is not what the group wants obviously... :-)


However, just that we are all sure that we have these fronts as follows:


Front 1
Keeping BES/JSDL nearly as is and try to fit / squeeze solutions for the requirements in it or put them close to them (e.g. modify portType operations already existing).


Front 2
Taking bits and pieces from BES/JSDL where it makes sense (w/o structures), but define a new structure (e.g. new portType operations) by still referencing to the origin in the respective source documents.


Realistically, both fronts mean no backwards compatibility to a BES 1.0.


Since the beginning it was 'start from scratch vs. not changing old elements'.


Now, we have Front 1 willing to change views towards changing a few standard elements and Front 2 willing to keep elements (at least w/o structure) from good elements of the standard by creating a new structure.


This already means we getting closer together over time - so I'm looking forward to further discussions today.


End of the philosophical work,
Morris


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>------Original Message-----
>-From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
>-Oxana Smirnova
>-Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:55 PM
>-To: pgi-wg at ogf.org
>-Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>-
>-Hi,
>-
>-20.05.2009 13:36, Morris Riedel пишет:
>-> Hi,
>->
>->> - We will *always* have the two front, ...
>->
>-> ... we shouldn't - in the end, all we want is interoperability and I hope we
>-> still can get consensus that makes sense and not drift off like in an
>-> IDL-like thinking where solutions come up that are not interoperable at
>-> all...
>->
>-
>-Precisely, and to avoid two or three or N fronts, we must establish a
>-procedure. When a document is circulated for comments or additions,
>-these comments/additions should be attached/included to the circulated
>-document. They must not come in form of another document that in turns
>-demands a separate round of comments.
>-
>-So, let's take one document at a time, and let's formalize a bit the way
>-comments are submitted. Specifically, I find it convenient when comments
>-are in-line, and additions/corrections are inserted with tracing of
>-changes switched on. This will hopefully prevent opening new fronts. I
>-do not want to merge two or three or N documents, I want to finish work
>-on ONE document first.
>-
>-Cheers,
>-Oxana
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