[Pgi-wg] No PGI TelCon today

[Steve Crouch]

Hi David, All,

Yes, I certainly would be interested if the call goes ahead.

Regards
Steve

David Wallom wrote:
> Morris,
> 
> I have to agree with Steven, whilst it is important that you and Balazs as
> chairs drive progress within the groups as the people responsible to
> fulfilling the groups deliverables, it is also important that the whole
> group is aware of the decision to cancel and if it wants can still hold a
> meeting without you present. It is also the case that people from I would
> imagine other middleware production efforts are still interested, for
> example OMII and GENESIS?
> 
> I am interested that not a single person from UNICORE, gLITE or ARC are able
> to attend? If this is the case then OGF should raise this matter with their
> leadership to find out why etc.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2009 12:29, "Steven Newhouse" <Steven.Newhouse at cern.ch> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Morris,
>>  
>>> That might be the case, but take into account that it's vacation time,
>>> at least in Europe - and the rather more important group argument
>>> should be that there are not enough significant 'voices' today to make
>>> decisions or even meaningful progress.
>> Sure... but there was no call on the mailing list to see if anyone would be
>> available for a call, or if there was anyone else available who could lead the
>> call. The WG chairs do not have to lead every call, they are certainly
>> expected to drive progress within the group.
>>
>>> There is no point to have an agreement w/o gLite, UNICORE, ARC.
>> While I agree with this... (with my EGEE hat on) there are also other groups
>> involved in this WG and it is VERY worrying (with my OGF hat on) that a WG
>> chair should make a statement that only a particular technologies have an
>> 'important' voice in an activity.
>>
>> I'm sure this was a mistake...
>>
>>> If this group is really following a collaborative process, we should
>>> have a voice from everybody who is interested - and when we not wait
>>> for one or more interested voices in terms of  'just-going-forward-
>>> with-meaningless-decisions' - that would be not a WIN/WIN game in the
>>> end that we want to achieve in the group.
>> Which it seems to be from this statement...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steven
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