[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Sept. 25th call

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi all,

The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Sept. 25th
Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT).

The dial-in number for Monday;
   US:    +1 718 3541071 (New York) or
          +1 408 9616509 (San Jose)
   UK:    +44 (0)207 3655269 (London)
   Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo)
   PIN:  4371991
   See more information:
   - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1

Screen share service will be provided.
   URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net
   Session key: 0925
   See more explanation:
   - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1

1) Early discussion (20 min)
         Note taker assignment
         Roll call
         Telecon minutes approval (if available)
         F2F meeting minutes approval (Sept. 15)
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13871?nav=1
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13862?nav=1
         Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
         Agenda bashing

2) OGSA and EGA reference model (45 min)
>   - No specific OGF policy on unifying EGA and GGF work, but there is
>     an expectation that parties talk to each other
>   - Merging the glossaries? Yes and does not look too difficult
>   - Proposal: maintain the distinction between reference model; and
>     OGSA as (a service oriented) rendering of it;
>     - Is it true, or should it be made true?
>     - As an exercise, what is the specific use case to drive it; need
>       a reason--more than an abstract motivation. No reason just to be
>       consistent.
>     - EMS (or the more restricted HPC Profile) might be a good
>       starting point
>     - Would probably need more than one use case; would also have to
>       think broader than current thinking in OGSA.
>     - Transaction processing kind of environment as one motivation?
>   - Next step: Set up an initial group of people to start a discussion
>     within OGSA. Identify what should be done.
>     - Dave Snelling, Andrew Grimshaw, Tom Maguire
>     - Paul Strong, Alan Clark, Bob Thome

         GGF18 session material, minutes, and EGA document:
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13838?nav=1 (Glossary)
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13827?nav=1 (OGSA vs EGA)
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13839?nav=1 (minutes)
         - http://www.gridalliance.org/en/WorkGroups/index.asp (EGA doc)

3) OGSA roadmap v1.1 status update (Chris Jordon, 45 min)
         Chris will make the next revised draft available up on
         gridforge by this weekend for review and discussion on
         the 25th.

4) Wrap up (10 min)
         AOB

<*NEXT CALL*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1

Sept. 28 (Thu): TBD
Oct.   2 (Mon): Information/data modeling
Oct.   5 (Thu): Security
Oct.   9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap

<*ACTION ITEMS*>
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1

  > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
    AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
             collect workflow (BPEL) experience
    AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
              DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
              DMTF is doing for the rest.
    AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
    AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
    AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process

  > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
    AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
             presented into the scenarios document
    AI-0914b (D Snelling, D Merrill): Set up an OGSA Security design
             team
    AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the
             next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list

  > From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13)
    AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
    AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
             (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
              extension.)
    AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
              method of activity interface.
    AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
    AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
    AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
              "ActivityExecutionCandidate."

  > From GGF18 EGA session (Sept. 12)
     AI-0912a: Hiro to set up an initial group of people to start a
               discussion within OGSA. Identify what should be done.
      - Dave Snelling, Andrew Grimshaw, Tom Maguire
      - Paul Strong, Alan Clark, Bob Thome

  > From Sept. 7 call
    AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of
              strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference.
    AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new
               version to Takuya.
    AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call
               on the list. (Probably during GGF18.)

  > From Aug. 31 call
    AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
                scenario.
    AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
                Scenarios document

  > From Aug. 17 call
    AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
               Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
               start a discussion on how they handle data:
               - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
               - how transfers are modeled
               - how files are advertised
               - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
               (Due Oct. 9)

  > From Aug. 3 call
    AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
               using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
    AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
               variables

  > From July 20 F2F
- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
     contribute use cases.
- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
     Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
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Hiro Kishimoto