Proposal of OGSA panel "Working with OGSA" (Re: [ogsa-wg] Teleconference minutes - 8 February 2006)

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi all,

 > ** Panel discussion
 >    - Reviewed Andreas' draft panel description, proposed balance and
 >      identified candidates for participants and moderator.
 >   - One proposal is to have two moderators, one from industry the
 >     other from academia. It is interesting but there was some
 >     uncertainty on how well the format would work.
 >   - Candidates so far are mostly from academia. Looking for more
 >     commercial/industry representatives. Possible candidates:
 >     - Tony Hey (MS)
 >     - Franco Travostino (Nortel)
 >     - David Martin (IBM)
 >     - /Someone from Univa/
 >   Action: Hiro will post the panel proposal text to the list and
 >           followup with the identified candidates to confirm the final
 >           selection.

The following is what we've agreed Today.

"OGSA is the flagship architecture of GGF and one of its most active
WGs. It has published a number of documents and more are in the
pipeline. A number of fellow WGs are also busy refining parts of the
architecture. But perhaps in some ways the group, its activities, and
aims are a black box to many people in GGF. To bridge this communication
gap this panel will explore the experiences of people working with OGSA;
the expectations of people wishing to work with OGSA; as well as attempt
to shed more light on the group's activities and objectives."

Panelist candidates (5 at most?):
	JSDL        (Steve McGough/Ali Anjomshoaa)
	OMII/BES    (Steven Newhouse)
	EGEE        (Francesco Prelz?)
         Tony Hey    (Microsoft)
         Franco      (Nortel)
         UNIVA       (?)
         John Tollefsrud (SUN)

	An active OGSA member (perhaps Andrew Grimshaw, Jay, Hiro, ...)

- Panel balance. Should include people from
	- Europe, US, Asia-Pacific
	- Industry, Academia
	- Big Grid project (with deployments) and
		Commercial vendors or adopters
	- Other GGF WGs
	- An active OGSA member
	- (option) Other standards bodies?

Moderator candidates:
	#1 Malcolm Atkinson
	#2 John Tollefsrud
         #3 Dave Martin

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Andreas Savva wrote:
> Minutes attached.
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20060208/en/1
> 
> Have a good trip and see you at GGF16.
> -- 
> Andreas Savva
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> OSGA Teleconference minutes - 8 February 2006
> =============================================
> 
> * Participants
>   
>   Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu)
>   Fred Maciel (Hitachi)
>   Mark Morgan (UVa)
>   Takuya Mori (NEC)
>   Andreas Savva (Fujitsu)
>   Ellen Stokes (IBM)
>   Ravi Subramaniam (Intel)
>   Jem Treadwell (HP)
> 
>   Minutes: Andreas Savva
> 
> * Summary of Actions
> 
>   Action: Hiro to upload the Profiles to the GGF Editor tracker
> 
>   Action: Hiro will post the panel proposal text to the list and
>           followup with the identified candidates to confirm the final
>           selection.
> 
>   
> * February 6 minutes approved with no changes
> 
> * Monday teleconference information (dial-in numbers) will change
>   after GGF16. 
> 
>   - Many thanks to HP (Jeffrin) for providing the facilities so far.
> 
> * Basic security profiles update
> 
>   - Final call finished last Monday
>   - Some minor revisions from Hiro and Jem 
>   - Agreed that the profiles can be submitted to the GGF Editor
>   
>   Action: Hiro to upload the Profiles to the GGF Editor tracker
> 
> * WSRF Basic Profile update - no update
> 
> * RSM license - Ellen is following up.
> 
> * Glossary
> 
>   - Data Federation: Accepted 'logical' and added "In OGSA," since this
>     is an OGSA specific definition.
> 
>   - Re-worked definitions for "use case" and "scenarios" merging the
>     two proposals.
> 
>   Jem will upload the document but will not issue a final call. There
>   will be a combined OGSA 1.5 final call (Architecture and Glossary)
>   when Andreas uploads the final version late this week, early next
>   week.
> 
> * Wikipedia - OGSA entry
> 
>   - Jem has updated the entry (OGSA). The motivation is just to make
>     sure that the correct information is provided in that public
>     forum. More detailed information will be maintained on the GGF
>     site.
> 
> * GGF16 planning
> 
> ** Panel discussion
> 
>    - Reviewed Andreas' draft panel description, proposed balance and
>      identified candidates for participants and moderator.
> 
>   - One proposal is to have two moderators, one from industry the
>     other from academia. It is interesting but there was some
>     uncertainty on how well the format would work.
> 
>   - Candidates so far are mostly from academia. Looking for more
>     commercial/industry representatives. Possible candidates:
>     - Tony Hey (MS)
>     - Franco Travostino (Nortel)
>     - David Martin (IBM)
>     - /Someone from Univa/
> 
>   Action: Hiro will post the panel proposal text to the list and
>           followup with the identified candidates to confirm the final
>           selection.
> 
> ** Information model session agenda
> 
>    The session will be a working session focusing on the Modeling
>    guidelines (Fred) and the container documents (Ellen)
> 
>    Proposed and accepted that it should be a bottom-up session,
>    starting with the BES container to motivate the more general
>    guidelines discussion---make it clear that the 'guidelines' is
>    based off the process that came up with the container.
> 
>    It should be made very clear that the guidelines are formulated
>    based on work actually done and are not a blue-sky description of
>    an untried process.
> 
>   Expected audience for this session: EMS (mainly) and possibly Data
> 
>   - BES was initially chosen as a candidate since it is a simple(r)
>     component in EMS. Along the same lines of thoughts a likely first
>     candidate in data is the BYTEIO-WG---it deals with files.
> 
>   - It should also be emphasized that the RM design team is not trying
>     to make more work for other WGs. The main work will be done in
>     OGSA; but domain expert collaboration is needed.
> 
>   - A grid view of storage is another candidate (ref. SNIA)
> 
> * Modeling Guidelines document review
> 
>   There was not sufficient time to review the document in detail. Some
>   comments were to add
>   - information on how to get access to tools (RSM license);
>   - that the process has been used to come up with the BES container
>     model (and is not a blue-sky approach); and
>   - in the introduction that basing the work on CIM is a *proposal*
>     (it is mentioned in the Status section but some people might not
>     look at that section).
> 
> ** F2F agenda review
> 
>    - Hiro is working to fill in logistical info (location and how to
>      get there)
>    - Agreed to put 'Next F2F' discussion earlier in the agenda.
>      Sometime in the morning is better to make sure that most
>      interested parties are present.