[ogsa-wg] Roadmap v19 uploaded

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi Greg,

 >>I don't know how the authors responded to the note I put on the
 >>document's tracker. Greg, can you help?
 >
 > You're talking about this document, right?
 >
 > 	A Roadmap for the Open Grid Services Architecture (v1.0)
 > 	https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?aid=1548
 >
 > The Public Comment tracker is here:
 > 	https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=540
 >
 > I'm sorry, but I didn't see a note from you in either tracker.  I must
 > be missing something.

The comment is made against "Attributes used in OGSA Authorization" not
"OGSA roadmap."

You've pasted my comment here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/message.php?msg_id=1282

And actual comments are made in the uploaded word document;
https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?aid=1485

You can find my comment on the first page:
"OGSA-WG has OGSA profile definition document and OGSA WSRF Basic
Profile as an example. I recommend to re-format this document based on
the OGSA profile definition."

At the August F2F meeting in Sunnyvale, OGSA-WG and OGSA-AuthZ-WG
have agreed not to reformat this version.

 From the F2F meeting minutes;
 > Attributes document give information background and defines profiles.
 > Hiro proposed to use profile format. Only part of document is
 > profile, and the rest is informational. Part that is a profile can be
 > changed to OGSA format. Tom: still struggling with document structure
 > in OGSA. Discussion if document can be divided in two, to make clear
 > what is normative and what is not. Consensus that will address this
 > in version 2.

 > There are responses from Jem in the Public Comment tracker, and my
 > understanding is that we're awaiting a couple of other sections before
 > moving this to the next step.  If the changes are substantial, we
 > might want to run it through another public comment period.

We think the changes are all minor and we don't need another public
comment period.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Gregory Newby wrote:
> (Note that I'm not on the ogsa-wg mailing list -- please
> forward this note if needed)
> 
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 01:09:56AM -0700, David Snelling wrote:
> 
>>Jem et al,
>>
>>On 2 Sep 2005, at 15:57, Treadwell, Jem wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm  not making this the Final Call version yet, because I need to 
>>>clarify something: although Takuya put the AuthZ docs in section 
>>>5, and I agree that they're profiles (though the Use of SAML doesn't 
>>>actually mention the word profile), the versions I found on 
>>>GridForge don't conform to the OGSA Profile Definition.
>>
>>I mentioned this in the GFSG review prior to AuthZ going to PC. I'm 
>>hoping the Greg and the authors agree in time to use the Profile 
>>template, as it would make the document easier to follow and of course 
>>match the OGSA document structure. Note that the AuthZ authors are not 
>>bound (by their charter) to conform to the Profile template, but I 
>>think it would help all around. This may not happen until a later 
>>version.
> 
> 
> The template idea is great, but it will mostly be the WG
> that "enforces" it -- from what I've heard so far, much of
> it won't apply to non-OGSA-WG documents.
> 
> There are definitely some items that will apply much
> more broadly....for example, the discussion about how
> to allude to the trademark, and when to spell out OGSA
> versus using the acronym.  
> 
> These types of items would be great for another document, even a
> casual "howto" for the Editor tracker area rather than a
> formal document.  This is something I could link in
> (here: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ggf-editor) &
> update as needed.
> 
> 
>>In the meantime, I would list it in the Profile section, but note that 
>>it is not in the expected format.
>>
>>I don't know how the authors responded to the note I put on the 
>>document's tracker. Greg, can you help?
> 
> 
> You're talking about this document, right?
> 
> 	A Roadmap for the Open Grid Services Architecture (v1.0)
> 	https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?aid=1548
> 
> The Public Comment tracker is here:
> 	https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=540
> 
> I'm sorry, but I didn't see a note from you in either tracker.  I must
> be missing something.
> 
> There are responses from Jem in the Public Comment tracker, and my
> understanding is that we're awaiting a couple of other sections before
> moving this to the next step.  If the changes are substantial, we
> might want to run it through another public comment period.
>   -- Greg
> 
> 
>