[ogsa-wg] Proposed (DRAFT) Agenda for Basic EM BOF

[Andrew Grimshaw]

Ian,

 

 

a) As discussed on last nights telecom, we are going to allocate up to 30
minutes for other presenters. I have already sent email to the two people
who have requested time.

 

b) The whole point of this working group IS to fit into the overall
architecture. That is how the charter SHOULD read. The charter is the
contract the working group makes with the steering committee, and limits the
scope of the working group.

 

c)       I don't understand item c, the draft charter document clearly
states

"Focus/Purpose

The OGSA Execution Management Services (EMS) design team has developed as
part of the OGSA V1 document a draft set of EMS services to support a wide
range of use-cases. The objective of the proposed OGSA-BES working group is
to focus on a minimal sub-set of the EMS services and develop a
recommendations document (i.e., specification) for them. The working group
will work closely with the WG/RGs within GGF, e.g. OGSA WG, JSDL WG, SAGA
RG, GRAAP WG and also widely used pioneering projects; e.g. Globus, UNICORE,
Condor, Legion, Platform, SGE, PBS, OMII, and others as appropriate.

 

The milestones are particularly ambitious in order to support the overall
OGSA roadmap and timeline. Fortunately there has already been significant
discussion with the OGSA-WG on the overall EMS architecture, as well as
discussions with other interested parties such as OMII and EGEE.

 

Scope

The scope of the proposed working group is on the definition of services for
service  instantiation and management, with a particular focus initially on
legacy "job" services. For example, using the OGSA V1 nomenclature, service
containers and jobs.

"

 

Andrew

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From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Ian
Foster
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:39 PM
To: Andrew Grimshaw; ogsa-wg at ggf.org; 'Karl Czajkowski'; Kazushige Saga
Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] Proposed (DRAFT) Agenda for Basic EM BOF

 

Three comments:

a) It's important to give time for other people to present. E.g., I suspect
Karl Czajkowski will want to present on our behalf. There will likely be
others. People should be able to sign up ahead of the meeting and get a time
allocation.

b) I don't see how we can require a priori that "the output of the OGSA-BEM
will fit into the overall OGSA EMS architecture." I don't know what that
means, and in any case, we need to see what people come up with. 

c) It is important to say something in the BOF description as to what we
expect the scope of "basic execution management service" to be. E.g.,
"focused on defining Web services interfaces for job submission, monitoring,
and management."

Ian.

At 05:31 PM 3/7/2005 -0500, Andrew Grimshaw wrote:




The objective of the BOF is to form the OGSA Basic Execution Management
Service Working Group (OGSA-BEM). The output of the OGSA-BEM will fit into
the overall OGSA EMS architecture, as initially described in the OGSA V1
Document. It is expected that the OGSA EMS architecture will evolve over
time and that evolution will eventually need to be incorporated. Such
incorporation may not take place in this working group depending on whether
OGSA-BEM completes before changes are made in the overall OGSA-EMS.

 

Proposed Agenda

 

 

Presentation of GGF IP Rules

Pass around sign-up sheet

 

 

Background on OGSA EMS

 

Basic Execution Management A Focus on Minimal Services

            Draft Service Containers description

 

Charter discussion

            Should charter be extended to include Actors?

            Should the charter be extended to include any form of
agreements?

            Milestones

 

Scheduling of calls

 



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Ian Foster                    www.mcs.anl.gov/~foster
Math & Computer Science Div.  Dept of Computer Science
Argonne National Laboratory   The University of Chicago    
Argonne, IL 60439, U.S.A.     Chicago, IL 60637, U.S.A.
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