[ogsa-wg] OGSA-EMS Meeting Agenda (2005-01-17)

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi Ian, Ravi,

I think Basic EM profile provide very simple job submission functionality
based on the evolving specifications (plus OGSA basic profile).

The evolving specifications, IMHO, are the WS-agreement and the JSDL
spec. The WS-agreement defines protocol and XML envelope and
the JSDL spec defines actual terms/attributes of document.

The WS-Agreement is developed by GRAAP-WG and is now under
public comment review.

https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=461

JSDL spec is now under developing by JSDL-WG and will be submit to 
GGF editor (at latest) before GGF13.

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/draft-ggf-jsdl-spec/en
/11 

Also WSDL style API for Job manager is nice to have. But IFAIK the
API discussion is at the very early stage.

Hope it helps,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

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Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA-EMS Meeting Agenda (2005-01-17)

Ravi:

You've asked to pointers to relevant standards, but to first order there aren't
any. That does make me wonder whether it is even possible to have a meaningful
conversation about an EMS interoperability profile at this time, given that a
profile is supposed to document an established use of established standards.

I believe that the interfaces developed by the Globus team for GT4 GRAM are
relevant to an EMS discussion, in that they represent the result of an intensive
effort to develop WSRF-based job management interfaces.

Documentation is at:
http://www-unix.globus.org/toolkit/docs/development/3.9.4/execution/wsgram/

The concepts are described here:
http://www-unix.globus.org/toolkit/docs/development/3.9.4/execution/key/WS_GRAM_
Approach.html

And some of the interfaces here:
http://www-unix.globus.org/toolkit/docs/development/3.9.4/execution/wsgram/WS_GR
AM_Public_Interfaces.html

Regards,

Ian.


At 11:14 PM 1/14/2005 -0800, Subramaniam, Ravi wrote:


Hi,

 

Here is the agenda for this Mondays teleconference. As agreed at the last F2F we
will be focusing on developing an EMS interoperability profile. We will use the
Draft Profile template (Tom, Dave) as a reference (attached for you
convenience). We encourage persons who are active in relevant GGF and other
standard organization WG and people who are very familiar with relevant
standards to attend these meetings to provide the right and informed
perspectives and inputs. 

 

If you would be willing to educate the rest of the participants on one or more
applicable standards that you are very familiar with please let me know and I
can schedule some time. These would be brief overviews that would lead to more
detailed discussions in future as we narrow on the appropriate set.

Please send me pointers to definitive documentation on any standards that you
feel should be part of the EMS profile. I will compile these as references for
those who need to delve deeper.

 

Dial-In

 

Date: January 17th, 2005 (Monday)

Time: 5 7 PM (CST)

 

The dial-in number for Monday

  Free: +1-866-639-4741

  Toll: +1-574-935-6703

  PIN:  8980700

 

Screen share service will be provided.

  URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net

  Session key: 0117

 

See more explanation: 

http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html

  

Agenda:

  
1. Roll Call (5 mins) 
2. Agenda Bashing (10 mins) 
3. Ratification of previous minutes (5 mins) 
4. EMS profile discussion (tentative) (90 mins) 
1. Catalog applicable standards 
2. Review known standards wrt to the architecture 
3. Identify initial set 
5. Opens and wrap up. (10 mins) 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Ravi
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