[ogsa-wg] IPsphere and OGSA-WG joint call (Dec. 8th)

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi all,

As I mentioned at the Monday call, IPsphere consortium and OGSA-WG
have had a very good join call on Dec. 8th. Thank you very much for
you all who attended.

Kevin Dillon said ok to upload their background slides deck.
"IPsphere-backgrounder" is in the following folder
Document Manager:Meeting Materials and Minutes:Other
or
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/IPsphere-backgrounder/en/1

Franco Travostino took an excellent note and allow me to share
among us. The minutes (IPsphere-minutes-20051208) is in the same
folder.

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IPshere & OGSA-WG joint call Minutes - 8 December 2005
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* Participants

   Kevin Dillon (Juniper, IPshpere consortium)
   Jim Alateras (IPshpere consortium)
   Franco Travostino (Nortel, GGF Infrastructure AD)

   Andrew Grimshaw (UVa, OGSA-WG)
   Mark Morgan (UVa, OGSA-WG)
   Michael Behrens (R2AD LLC, OGSA-WG)
   Frank Siebenlist (ANL, OGSA-WG)
   Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu, OGSA-WG)


Many thanks to Andrew, Hiro, and anybody who dialed in. Kevin Dillon 
(the IPsphere Chairman,
http://www.ipsphereforum.org/) quickly introduced the Forum (slides 
available if you're
interested). In short, they are building a SOA-based service plane for 
inter-provider dynamic
stipulations (one could call it a "service grid" wherein SLAs are the 
defining asset).
Andrew gave an insightful overview of OGSA. The motivations and context 
for the OGSA body of work
clearly resonated with the Forum. Their questions were in the areas of 
technology maturity,
security, adherence to WS-related efforts, validation of scalability and 
interoperability. We
concluded with a high-level description of WS-Agreement and Hiro asking 
questions to position the
Forum with regard to TMF, ITU, NGN.

Salient points in my notes:
- the IPsphere Forum concerns with both specifications and reference 
running code
- their work is not publicly available though there is sentiment that it 
will be shortly
(specification wise at least)
- we stated that GGF is not equipped to deal with material other than 
public domain
- they will be taking a close look at the OGSA and WS-A collection of 
GFDs and GWDs (I will be
their 1st line facilitator)
- they will expedite the release of their specifications to the public 
for GGFers to gain better
feel for where they're at
- at their next meeting (Burbank, CA, Feb 13-16), hosted at Universal 
Studios, they wish to make a
statement to their constituency with regard to having intercepted GGF 
work and the scope for
further leverage
- there is interest in a bi-lateral liaison with an action register.

I will keep you informed of further developments.

-franco

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> IPsphere and OGSA-WG will have a first joint call tomorrow.
> (http://www.ipsphereforum.org/home) Franco Travostino, GGF
> Infrastructure Area Director, is arranging this joint call.
> I encourage you to call in.
> 
> Data: Thu Dec 8th
> Time: 5-7pm EST
> dial-in number: +1-919-997-8152
> passcode:       248-7708
> 
> OGSA-WG attendees (planned at Wednesday OGSA-WG call):
> - Andrew Grimshaw (UVa, Architecture Area Director)
> - Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu, co-chair)
> - Michael Behrens (R2AD LLC)
> - Mark Morgan (UVa)
> - Jem Treadwell (HP)
> 
> Presentation material:
>   I am now asking Ravi to send the final version of OGSA
>   overview slide deck for Management Developer Conference
>   2005 this Tuesday. I will send it to IPsphere folks before
>   the call. You can find a working draft at
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-high-level/en/6
> 
> Agenda:
>   IPsphere folks will provide meeting agenda.
>   AFAIK, the following items may be included.
> 
>   1. Introduce the IPSphere and the problem that it is trying to solve
>      (from a technical perspective). Maybe sent some material
>   2. A presentation of the OGSA
>   3. The current status of the OGSA
>   4. How does the OGSA address identity federation, security and
>      discovery.
>   5. Discuss the whether it makes sense for the IPSphere Forum to
>      building on top of the OGSA.
>   6. Roadmap of the OGSA
>   7. Conclusion.
> 
>  From OGSA-WG meeting minutes (Dec. 7th)
> 
>> * IPsphere OGSA presentation
>>
>>   - Planning an initial call tomorrow. Looking for volunteers to do
>>     the presentation.
>>     - This is fairly short notice. The call was arranged this week.
>>   - Andrew G and Mark M volunteered to do the presentation using the
>>     "OGSA Introduction" slide deck prepared for MDC.
>>     - Hiro has asked Ravi to send back the last version of the MDC
>>       slides; use the one on gridforge otherwise.
>>   - A number of other people are also planning to call in: Hiro,
>>     Michael, Jem.
> 
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051207/en/1