[occi-wg] XML to represent an instance

Jean Parpaillon jean.parpaillon at free.fr
Fri Nov 29 05:55:24 EST 2013


I'm ok with that: OCCI is simple and it should remain simple :)

Le vendredi 29 novembre 2013 à 11:38 +0100, Augusto Ciuffoletti a
écrit :
> Ok, but I'd like to understand first if the in-line creation is
> considered so relevant to deserve a specific treatment, or a sort of
> shortcut that can be eliminated if it is discovered to be a source of
> complication. Personally, I'm inclined to the second option (KIS)
> 
> 
> There is another open issue, that is the flat inclusion of mixins in
> the xml.
> 
> 
> Next week I terminate my course, and come back to play with xml!
> 
> 
> 2013/11/29 Jean Parpaillon <jean.parpaillon at free.fr>
>         Hi Augusto !
>         
>         Le mardi 12 novembre 2013 à 14:58 +0100, Augusto Ciuffoletti a
>         écrit :
>         > From a very intuitive (i.e., unformal) point of view, it is
>         a very
>         > compact way to describe an resource together with outgoing
>         links:
>         > think of a graph representation. I agree with you that this
>         offers an
>         > embarrassing alias for the operation of creating link,
>         clearly more
>         > convenient than the "official" way. I decided to use this
>         alternative
>         > exactly for that reason: it is very attractive, so probably
>         the most
>         > frequently used. But I found the same point you did: once
>         created, I
>         > have no reference for the link.
>         >
>         
>         
>         One solution could be to require the creation of a "real" link
>         when user
>         includes it inline. The server must then return a description
>         of created
>         resources, with id for them.
>         
>         
>         Jean
>         
>         >
>         > So here is the question: is the "in line" creation of a link
>         (as in
>         > the http rendering paper, sect. 3.4.5) conceptually
>         acceptable (and
>         > why, we may have overlooked some relevant detail), or not?
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 2013/11/12 Jean Parpaillon <jean.parpaillon at free.fr>
>         >         Hi Augusto,
>         >
>         >
>         >         Le 12/11/2013 11:40, Augusto Ciuffoletti a écrit :
>         >         > ...
>         >         >
>         >         >     >
>         >         >     > -) inline links are introduced in the
>         "infrastructure"
>         >         document. I
>         >         >     hope
>         >         >     > that my interpretation is correct. It is
>         true that in
>         >         this way a
>         >         >     link is
>         >         >     > hidden inside the resource. So this is a
>         critical
>         >         issue in the
>         >         >     > infrastructure document that should be
>         resolved, or
>         >         simply clarified
>         >         >     >
>         >         >
>         >         >     Could you point the section where it appears ?
>         I can not
>         >         find it.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Sorry, it was in the "http rendering" document.
>         This is the
>         >         link in
>         >         > March 2013 revision:
>         >         > GFD-P-R.185
>         >         > March 22, 2013
>         >         > 3.4.5 Handling Link instances
>         >         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Ok, thanks. From what I can understand, an inline
>         link can not
>         >         be
>         >         retrieved in the general links collection. This
>         looks weird
>         >         for me but I
>         >         have not concrete case in mind.
>         >
>         >         > ...
>         >
>         >         Regards,
>         >         --
>         >         Jean Parpaillon
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>         >         --
>         >         Augusto Ciuffoletti
>         >         Dipartimento di Informatica
>         >         Università di Pisa
>         >         56100 - Pisa (Italy)
>         
>         --
>         Jean Parpaillon
>         Open Source Consultant
>         Phone: +33 6 30 10 92 86
>         im: jean.parpaillon at gmail.com
>         skype: jean.parpaillon
>         linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanparpaillon/en
>         
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Augusto Ciuffoletti
> Dipartimento di Informatica
> Università di Pisa
> 56100 - Pisa (Italy)

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