[occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Csom Gyula
csom at interface.hu
Mon May 17 13:11:13 CDT 2010
Yep, I'm interested:-) Even though I've got a slightly different view on the target position of the upcoming format, I'm definetely interested in helping with it. (Regarding my "slightly different view"... I wouldn't consider my opinion established, yet, so I don't "propagate" it now.)
Gyula
Ps.: Dropped a private mail..., too.
-----Eredeti üzenet-----
Feladó: Edmonds, AndrewX [mailto:andrewx.edmonds at intel.com]
Küldve: 2010. 05. 17., H 17:24
Címzett: Gary Mazz; Sam Johnston
Másolatot kap: occi-wg at ogf.org; Csom Gyula
Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
>From SLA at SOI's point of view, we mainly use the OCCI header rendering. The XML schema that I presented to the list was a version that is needed for integration with WS-Agreement (XML-based). That XML representation gets converted into the HTTP header representation that is presented to our infrastructure service manager (the entity that provisions VMs using the OCCI API). If you want more details on this we can chat offline.
As Sam notes, there is no immediate plan to ratify a XML representation unless there are numerous voices in the community require one. In that case we are in a good position to have one based on the existing XML schema that will be used as a foundation/guide within the HTML5/RDFa representation. However as Gary hints at, the HTML5/RDFa representation should satisfy all needs. Gyula, if you are interested in helping with the HTML5/RDFa representation then do let us know :-)
Regards,
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Sam Johnston
Cc: occi-wg at ogf.org; Csom Gyula
Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi Gyula,
The XML versions of OCCI were developed prior to the XHTML5/RDFa
discussions. I believe Andy's version was for the SLA at SOI project which
uses XML. My version is being used as a staged prototype to help move
toward the RDFa implementation. Since XHTML5/RDFa is a format similar
enough to POX, the transition to and future adoption should be no more
difficult than adopting pox.
I hope this explains why there are XML formats floating around. I can't
speak for the SLA at SOI project, but as soon as the XHTML5/RDFa is
completed, I will be abandoning my XML implementation.
cheers,
gary
Sam Johnston wrote:
> 2010/5/17 Csom Gyula <csom at interface.hu <mailto:csom at interface.hu>>
>
> Hi,
> when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
>
> > Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this
> > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
>
> Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme?
> I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes
> to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please
> clarify this?
>
>
> That's right, there are no plans for a POX (plain old XML) rendering
> at this time.
>
> Sam
>
> -----Eredeti üzenet-----
> Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch at platform.com
> <mailto:tmetsch at platform.com>]
> Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56
> Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg at ogf.org>
> Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the
> rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome!
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Thijs
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org>
> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org>] On
> > Behalf Of Csom Gyula
> > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51
> > To: occi-wg at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg at ogf.org>
> > Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
> >
> > Hi,
> > thx for your reply!
> >
> > I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development
> would end
> > at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start).
> > Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific
> > development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5
> > month before (detailed) design decisions must be made...
> >
> > Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to
> > be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute
> element
> > within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be
> > necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http
> category
> > header draft, category already supports extensions
> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00,
> > Section 3).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gyula
> >
> > -----Eredeti üzenet-----
> > Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch at platform.com
> <mailto:tmetsch at platform.com>]
> > Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18
> > Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg at ogf.org>
> > Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro at gmail.com
> <mailto:garymazzaferro at gmail.com>
> > Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this
> > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there
> > will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are
> pretty
> > busy right now.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -Thijs
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org>
> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org>] On
> > > Behalf Of Csom Gyula
> > > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17
> > > To: occi-wg at ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg at ogf.org>
> > > Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml
> scheme to
> > be
> > > published?
> > >
> > > We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format.
> > > Meanwhile we have
> > > to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my
> > > previus mail:
> > > "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use
> Categories). Since
> > > we want to adhere
> > > to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml
> spec
> > > time is within our
> > > development timeframe or not:)
> > >
> > > I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft
> version of
> > the
> > > occi xml scheme
> > > at March
> > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html).
> > > I have one
> > > question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and
> categories
> > in
> > > the scheme?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Gyula
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