[occi-wg] confusion about status of link / headers

Adrian Cole adrian at jclouds.org
Tue Oct 20 18:55:04 CDT 2009


S3 is a devil we know :)

Thanks for your input to date.  Sorry I wasn't here for the history of
this discussion.

Ciao,
-Adrian

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro at gmail.com> wrote:
> Adrian,
>
> These issues are business issues and not appropriate discussion for this
> group. The issues about this technology have been brought up by myself and
> others. I'm done discussing this issue. If you trust S3, go for it.:-)
>
> -gary
>
> Adrian Cole wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Gary.
>>
>> I attended the AWS enterprise meetup in LA last week.    The number of
>> objects they mentioned that are stored in S3 is currently 70 billion
>> and the service has been running for over 3.5 years.   Granted that
>> their "global story" is shorter, but they do 2 years presence in the
>> EU.   All 70 billion objects use headers for metadata.
>>
>> What metadata system is more proven then this?  What are the technical
>> risks of using headers?   Are there clients or systems that are unable
>> to pass http headers, but are able to pass entities?
>>
>> None of this matters, if the concern is the code impact to your
>> application.  However, I'd like to know the details of the broader
>> concern you may be implying.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Look Sam,
>>>
>>> If you feel that this is the best way for move occi forward, go for it.
>>> I'm iust trying to preserve the integrity of the work and support it
>>> properly in this group. I will be rolling out an occi interface or occi
>>> like interface publicly by Q1'10. I will not be deploying this proposed
>>> protocol until it is proven to work in a global environment. If that
>>> means abandoning occi, well, I'll abandon occi.
>>>
>>> I personally, feel I cannot and will not risk a customer's business or
>>> the livelihood of partners and their families on a single opinion and
>>> unproven technology. When you get real numbers from a global time study,
>>> I'll be glad to review them and support your efforts.
>>>
>>> Enjoy your night off.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> gary
>>>
>>> Sam Johnston wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary,
>>>>
>>>> And here I was thinking I was getting the night off...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I am advocating this is not the only interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not the only interface - there's currently this one for machines
>>>> and XHTML5 for users (and masochistic machines who like to parse XML).
>>>> However it is the only interface users would have to implement (rather
>>>> than having to code XML, JSON *and* text, which was the case before).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I see Adrian has kindly stepped up to discuss the details with
>>>> you so I can get back to writing PyUnit unit tests.
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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