[occi-wg] confusion about status of link / headers

[Andre Merzky]

Quoting [Gary Mazz] (Oct 20 2009):
> 
> Adrian,
> 
> These issues are business issues and not appropriate discussion for this 
> group. The issues about this technology have been brought up by myself 
> and others. I'm done discussing this issue. If you trust S3, go for it.:-)

Uhm, I think Adrian is trying to make a technical point, i.e. is
citing prior art.  If you consider the S3 prior art invalid, ok, I
am sure he'll listen to your arguments, and he and Sam will try to
find another example...

Andre.

PS.: You know, it is great to see a group with strong individuals -
but I would not like to chair it... ;-)


> -gary
> 
> Adrian Cole wrote:
> > Hi, Gary.
> >
> > I attended the AWS enterprise meetup in LA last week.    The number of
> > objects they mentioned that are stored in S3 is currently 70 billion
> > and the service has been running for over 3.5 years.   Granted that
> > their "global story" is shorter, but they do 2 years presence in the
> > EU.   All 70 billion objects use headers for metadata.
> >
> > What metadata system is more proven then this?  What are the technical
> > risks of using headers?   Are there clients or systems that are unable
> > to pass http headers, but are able to pass entities?
> >
> > None of this matters, if the concern is the code impact to your
> > application.  However, I'd like to know the details of the broader
> > concern you may be implying.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Adrian
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> Look Sam,
> >>
> >> If you feel that this is the best way for move occi forward, go for it.
> >> I'm iust trying to preserve the integrity of the work and support it
> >> properly in this group. I will be rolling out an occi interface or occi
> >> like interface publicly by Q1'10. I will not be deploying this proposed
> >> protocol until it is proven to work in a global environment. If that
> >> means abandoning occi, well, I'll abandon occi.
> >>
> >> I personally, feel I cannot and will not risk a customer's business or
> >> the livelihood of partners and their families on a single opinion and
> >> unproven technology. When you get real numbers from a global time study,
> >> I'll be glad to review them and support your efforts.
> >>
> >> Enjoy your night off.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> gary
> >>
> >> Sam Johnston wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Gary,
> >>>
> >>> And here I was thinking I was getting the night off...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     I am advocating this is not the only interface.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's not the only interface - there's currently this one for machines
> >>> and XHTML5 for users (and masochistic machines who like to parse XML).
> >>> However it is the only interface users would have to implement (rather
> >>> than having to code XML, JSON *and* text, which was the case before).
> >>>
> >>> Anyway I see Adrian has kindly stepped up to discuss the details with
> >>> you so I can get back to writing PyUnit unit tests.
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >>>
> >>>       
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> >
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