[occi-wg] Deadline for consensus

Roger Menday roger.menday at uk.fujitsu.com
Tue May 26 09:23:16 CDT 2009



Hi Sam,

not to undervalue your hard work, but in my opinion I don't think we  
will be able to make a decision this week. We don't have all the time  
in the world, but I don't fancy rushing a decision on this one.

regards,
Roger

> All,
>
> As you know our already extended deadline for the formats discussion  
> passed on Friday. Thijs is now in the unfortunate position of having  
> to explain why we will miss our first self-assigned deliverable  
> deadline (an implementable draft) on Thursday and I know well how it  
> feels to have to stand in front of an audience with nothing to say,  
> having done so twice last week (it's only with a big "personal  
> vision only" disclaimer that I was able to say anything at the Cloud  
> Computing Expos).
>
> Iff we can come to consensus about the format today (or at the very  
> latest tomorrow) then we need not watch another deadline sail by and  
> in doing so risk being declared a failure prematurely. Indeed if we  
> can't achieve even a loose consensus after all the discussion then I  
> may well be the first to say so - my time (and travel!) budget for  
> OCCI has already been well exceeded and the irrelevant RF vs RAND  
> discussion has tested what's left of my patience. Please focus on  
> the task at hand and if you have any specific issues about the  
> latest proposal then raise them sooner rather than later - I've put  
> considerable effort into optimising Atom out for the most common use  
> case (individual resources) over the weekend and by shifting  
> metadata to HTTP headers the resulting descriptor format is far  
> simpler than even I would have thought possible - see APIDesign for  
> examples.
>
> On the subject of rolling our own protocol from scratch, I for one  
> am dismissing the suggestion for reasons previously explained. I  
> don't think this group has (nor needs) what it takes to implement an  
> Internet protocol from the ground up and any attempt to do so would  
> be fraught with danger, not to mention completely unnecessary given  
> the corpus of work done by others at the IETF (who are geared up for  
> such tasks).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
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Roger Menday (PhD)
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