[occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI

Alexis Richardson alexis.richardson at gmail.com
Tue May 12 06:15:00 CDT 2009


Andy

It's not completely obvious to me how people can interoperate on just
a model, nor how normative renderings can be plural.

alexis


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Edmonds, AndrewX
<andrewx.edmonds at intel.com> wrote:
> I'd (again) agree with this and would re-iterate Alexander's (Papaspyrou) earlier point on approach and process:
>
> "The canonical way to cope with this issue [formats] (which, by the way, has proved right many times in the past) in many WGs within OGF is to separate this step not only in design, but also in specification: have an abstract "modeling" part in the spec which clearly defines the semantics the data, and one or more normative renderings for the abstract model."
>
> It would also seem to me that although we have the noun-verb-attribute reasoning it might need to be expressed in an easier form to communicate, say graphically.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 12 May 2009 11:43
> To: Richard Davies
> Cc: occi-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI
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>
>
> On 12 May 2009, at 11:20, Richard Davies wrote:
>
>>> Therein lies the problem - there are no "standard tools" nor any
>>> way to
>>> specify a cross-platform mechanical transform for JSON (at least
>>> not yet).
>>
>> Yes, I agree with you there - if we're going with multiple formats
>> it'll be
>> easier to define XML -> JSON than JSON -> XML.
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Rather than transforming across the actual formats, there seems to be
> a interest in defining a model and then describe how to render onto
> various data formats. So, rendering-down, rather then transforming-
> across. (?)
>
> The data formats discussion is a tricky one to resolve, as there's
> things to like in each of JSON, ATOM and key-value. That said, the
> "compliant, but non-interoperable implementations through supporting
> multiple representations" is a strong argument for a single format.
> Whatever that may be ...
>
> regards
> Roger
>
>>
>> Richard.
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