[occi-wg] Opinion Poll: IaaS or PaaS ?

Sam Johnston samj at samj.net
Thu Jun 18 06:19:43 CDT 2009


On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Randy Bias <randyb at neotactics.com> wrote:

> Sure, but that's not the issue.  The issue is VM portability.  It's
> important, but difficult.  That's my point.  Specifying the hypervisor of an
> image just means the cloud has enough foreknowledge to reject the upload.
>

Exactly. In fact my main concern is that as OVF is only ever used as a
transport rather than run-time format there are two potentially lossy
transformations (one to bundle up e.g. a VMware virtual machine to OVF and
another to unbundle it to say Hyper-V). Any settings that fall outside of
the OVF net (potentially including critical details such as interface
parameters) will be ignored at best and lost at worst.

If a client wants to make a VM it should not need to understand OVF so we
will have our own, simple descriptor language that I imagine will end up
looking like the stuff in VMX files (example attached). If we are careful
about how we do this we may well be able to solve the VM portability problem
as well - something I'm sure many of the open source projects would be happy
to see.

Sam


> On Jun 14, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Sam Johnston wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bias <randyb at neotactics.com> wrote:
>
>>  If you don't have this capability then allowing the upload of completely
>> opaque images and hoping they will have any kind of reasonable performance
>> on an arbitrary cloud providers system is a pipe dream.  This is an area
>> badly in need of standardization, but I doubt it will come any time soon.
>
>
> Fortunately specifying the type of hypervisor an image is tied to/optimised
> for isn't hard...
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> Randy Bias, Cloud Strategist
> +1 (415) 939-8507 [m], randyb at neotactics.comBLOG: http://cloudscaling.com
>
>
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