[occi-wg] OCCI presentation at IGT2009 slides

[Alexis Richardson]

That's a great answer Chris.

Thank-you!

alexis


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Christopher Smith <csmith at platform.com> wrote:
> Hi Prasad,
>
> At the current time, I believe that the focus of OCCI is somewhat different
> from that of the existing set of OGF specifications. Most of the standards
> for Grid computing are very specific to the usage models of grid computing,
> which deal with concepts such as batch jobs, file management, etc, etc. I
> like to see these as standards for applications which are _accessing_
> resources.
>
> On the other hand, OCCI, in my mind, is a specification designed to help
> users to _manage_ resources directly, and is less concerned with the access
> to those resources once the resources have been set up and running. So the
> key difference in my mind is that OCCI is a resource management layer
> specification vs the Grid workload management layer specifications.
>
> This is not to say that there won't be intersection points. As the VP of
> standards (my current role), the standards council and I monitor activity
> across the multiple OGF working groups, and encourage groups to collaborate
> where there is some intersection point that they might not be aware of. For
> example, there might be room for OCCI to present information about resources
> that is rendered using the GLUE information model.
>
> I can also see that when OCCI starts considering how one might expose the
> management of PaaS offerings, that "Grid", based on existing OGF standards,
> might be one of the platforms to be exposed.
>
> -- Chris
>
>
> On 8/12/09 18:26 , "Renuka Prasad" <prasadtg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>     I am interested in knowing the role of existing OGF standards for
>> grid computing in the upcoming cloud technology. Will they will be
>> used as it is or only some standards will be incorporated?
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Prasad
>>
>>
>> On 12/6/09, shlomo.swidler at gmail.com <shlomo.swidler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Last week I presented OCCI at the IGT2009 conference and participated
>>> in a short panel discussion about cloud standards, moderated by Reuven
>>> Cohen and including a representative of the Zend Simple Cloud API.
>>>
>>> Here are the slides:
>>> http://www.slideshare.net/shl0m0/igt2009-the-open-cloud-computing-interface
>>>
>>> The panel discussion touched on these three questions:
>>>
>>> 1) What is the driver for cloud standards - do businesses really want them?
>>> I said that the main driver for standardization is coming from the
>>> Government. Now that they need to buy cloud, and to define it before
>>> they can buy it, standards will be needed in order to fulfill
>>> Government purchasing requirements.
>>>
>>> 2) Why not just use the existing de-facto standards such as the EC2
>>> API, as opposed to creating de-jure standards?
>>> I said that we need to focus on the vision: the vision is "open cloud"
>>> and a healthy ecosystem. The current de-facto standard is not
>>> compatible with that vision, since it is IP encumbered. Instead we
>>> need to push for an open standard.
>>>
>>> 3) Why don't you two guys (OCCI and Simple Cloud API) work together?
>>> I smiled, reached over, and shook the Simple Cloud API rep's hand.
>>>
>>> Shlomo
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