[occi-wg] Nouns and Verbs (was: Syntax of OCCI API) - state model

Alexander Papaspyrou alexander.papaspyrou at tu-dortmund.de
Tue Apr 21 04:33:14 CDT 2009


Thanks Ignacio,

I had to catch up last week's discussion, and dropped in before  
reading the whole thread ;) Sorry for that...

And yes, with that scope, I totally agree on the current notion.

-Alexander

Am 21.04.2009 um 11:28 schrieb Ignacio Martin Llorente:

> Alexander,
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> We are defining an API for end users of cloud infrastructures, and  
> not an API for the dynamic management of VMs in clusters/data  
> centers. I think that the scope is clearly defined in the charter.
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> Thanks
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> DSA Research Group:  web http://dsa-research.org and blog http://blog.dsa-research.org
> Globus GridWay Metascheduler: http://www.GridWay.org
> OpenNebula Virtual Infrastructure Engine: http://www.OpenNebula.org
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> On 21/04/2009, at 11:16, Alexander Papaspyrou wrote:
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>> This is a "view" question. From the viewpoint of a scheduler,  
>> "migrating" is important; the user certainly does not need (want?)  
>> to see this. Are we really clear about the target audience of the  
>> API?
>>
>> -Alexander
>>
>> Am 17.04.2009 um 14:49 schrieb Chris Webb:
>>
>>> Thijs Metsch <Thijs.Metsch at Sun.COM> writes:
>>>
>>>> Installed --> Starting --> Running --> Stopping --> Stopped
>>>>                               \---> Suspended --> Starting -->  
>>>> Running
>>>>                               \---> Migrated
>>>>                               \---> Copied
>>>>
>>>> Hope this nice piece of ASCII arts survives :-)
>>>
>>> It did! Could you clarify how 'migrated' and 'copied' differ from  
>>> 'running'?
>>> (Migration of VMs within a cloud for load-balancing is something  
>>> that should
>>> surely be completely user-transparent. Is this intended for some  
>>> other
>>> purpose?)
>>>
>>> Also, I don't follow what your 'installed' and 'starting' states  
>>> are for.
>>> Surely our virtual machine is either running or not: we can't  
>>> distinguish
>>> from outside whether a guest OS has fully started or not, even if  
>>> we believe
>>> such a distinction is well-defined.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
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>> Alexander Papaspyrou
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