[LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting

Mon Oct 29 11:09:59 CDT 2007

Thanks, Craig.  That is the purpose of this meeting.  Please suggest speakers who can address the issues you raise.

Dave

David Sigfredo Angulo
Faculty
DePaul University
312-362-5041  dangulo at cti.depaul.edu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: craig at rushg.aero.org [mailto:craig at rushg.aero.org] On
> Behalf Of Craig Lee
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:53 AM
> To: Richard Sinnott; Angulo, David; lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> Cc: craig at rush.aero.org
> Subject: Re: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting
>
>
> All,
>
> I'd like to echo all of these concerns and questions.  For
> the end-users and software/system developers in proteomics,
> what are the pain points?
> What are the current best practices?  What can OGF do from a
> technology/standards point of view?  What can we do from a
> community-building point of view?  Can the proteomics
> community articulate (in some way, shape, or form) a
> technology roadmap for where they think the field needs to go
> in the not-so-distant future?
>
> --Craig
>
> At 05:41 AM 10/29/2007, Richard Sinnott wrote:
> >I know lots of people involved in high throughput proteomics, indeed
> >Glasgow University has recently had a major centre funded
> specifically
> >in this area. See http://www.gla.ac.uk/rasor/
> >
> >My point is that having a talk from these people will not
> help OGF/OGSA
> >directly for the reasons I identify below. LSG-RG has to
> start asking
> >questions of the WG's and OGSA efforts in concrete/measurable terms
> >that someone in OGSA-BES, JSDL, DAIS, authZ etc etc can understand.
> >
> >Does the DAIS spec allow me to manage mass spec data? Does
> it provide
> >the security hooks I need? Does JSDL, OGSA-BES provide sufficient
> >support for me to process my mass spec data on a range of
> HPC clusters?
> >If not, why not... etc etc
> >
> >Otherwise we end up with the LSG-RG having no impact
> whatsoever on the
> >rest of the OGF/OGSA efforts - which is ~the case right now. (I
> >struggle to see any concrete examples that LSG-RG has thrown at the
> >other groups to enhance the OGSA standards - other than the
> SAML authZ
> >api and lack of parameters which we identified a couple of
> years ago in BRIDGES).
> >
> >R.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Angulo, David [mailto:dangulo at cti.depaul.edu]
> >Sent: 29 October 2007 13:17
> >To: Richard Sinnott; lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> >Subject: RE: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting
> >
> >Thanks, Richard, for your comments.  You are correct, our
> purpose is to
> >present proteomics / Life Sciences requirements to OGF at large (and
> >particular OGF research groups or working groups).  To do
> that, we must
> >learn what those requirements are by listening to the experts in the
> >area of high throughput proteomics.  If you know of any potential
> >speakers that have already developed these requirements, we would be
> >very happy to have you present their names for
> consideration; however,
> >I assume that our group will need to do this work ourselves.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >David Sigfredo Angulo
> >Faculty
> >DePaul University
> >312-362-5041  dangulo at cti.depaul.edu
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Sinnott [mailto:r.sinnott at nesc.gla.ac.uk]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:16 AM
> > > To: Angulo, David; lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> > > Subject: RE: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics
> > > Meeting
> > >
> > > If we are planning/discussing these via email, then can I suggest
> > > that
> >
> > > the talks are applications of OGF specs/implementations
> applied to
> > > the
> >
> > > proteomics/mass spec domain. Otherwise, and being my usual being
> > > devils advocate, what is the point of having these
> presentations at
> > > OGF and not somewhere else?
> > >
> > > The LSG-RG SHOULD be about informing OGF and hence OGSA standards
> > > (what works and what doesn't etc). It should NOT be about life
> > > sciences more generally - there are many conferences out
> there for
> > > that.
> > >
> > > If nobody is using the OGF specs / implementations in
> > > proteomics-land right now (which would not altogether
> surprise me),
> > > then another alternative is to have someone present their
> proteomics
> > > requirements and have OGF/OGSA area directors/WG leaders
> come in and
> > > discuss how their various efforts meet those requirements. I feel
> > > that the results
> >
> > > of this would be much more use to OGF/OGSA as a whole.
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Flames? ...
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lsg-rg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:lsg-rg-bounces at ogf.org] On
> > > Behalf
> >
> > > Of Angulo, David
> > > Sent: 28 October 2007 23:40
> > > To: lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> > > Subject: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear all:
> > >
> > > I would like to apologize for the previous message sent without a
> > > proper introduction.  My private e-mail message was
> forwarded to the
> > > list without my permission, but hopefully it didn't
> confuse anyone.
> > >
> > > This is an e-mail message regarding the Life Science Grid
> Research
> > > Group
> > > (LSG-RG) in the Open Grid Forum (OGF), formerly the Global Grid
> > > Forum (GGF).
> > >
> > > I will give a background of this group at the end of this message.
> > > First, though, let me state the purpose of this message.
> > >
> > > Our group has been extremely active since 2002, but the
> visibility
> > > of our activities has waned.  One suggestion, which we believe is
> > > quite on target, was to plan future meetings through our
> e-mail list
> > > (through which you are receiving this message).
> > >
> > > I would like to start out such an effort by asking for input in
> > > planning our next meeting, which will be help in February
> > > 2008 in Boston.  At the meeting in Seattle last week, the
> attendees
> > > were extremely interested in the proteomics
> presentations, and the
> > > group decided that we would solicit proteomics experts to
> speak at
> > > the
> >
> > > next meeting.
> > >
> > > Thus, I would like to extend a call for presentations in
> proteomics.
> > > We would like to specifically look for proteomic mass
> spectrometry
> > > presentations, but all will be considered.
> > > I would like the membership of this e-mail list to help us in the
> > > solicitation of speakers, and would like to solicit your
> input into
> > > what topics and/or speakers we should pursue.
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to input from all.
> > >
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> >
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> > > OGF take into account the requirements of applications in
> the Life
> > > Sciences.
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> > > David Sigfredo Angulo
> > > Faculty
> > > DePaul University
> > > 312-362-5041  dangulo at cti.depaul.edu
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