[LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting

[Richard Sinnott]

I know lots of people involved in high throughput proteomics, indeed
Glasgow University has recently had a major centre funded specifically
in this area. See http://www.gla.ac.uk/rasor/ 

My point is that having a talk from these people will not help OGF/OGSA
directly for the reasons I identify below. LSG-RG has to start asking
questions of the WG's and OGSA efforts in concrete/measurable terms that
someone in OGSA-BES, JSDL, DAIS, authZ etc etc can understand. 

Does the DAIS spec allow me to manage mass spec data? Does it provide
the security hooks I need? Does JSDL, OGSA-BES provide sufficient
support for me to process my mass spec data on a range of HPC clusters?
If not, why not... etc etc 

Otherwise we end up with the LSG-RG having no impact whatsoever on the
rest of the OGF/OGSA efforts - which is ~the case right now. (I struggle
to see any concrete examples that LSG-RG has thrown at the other groups
to enhance the OGSA standards - other than the SAML authZ api and lack
of parameters which we identified a couple of years ago in BRIDGES).

R.



-----Original Message-----
From: Angulo, David [mailto:dangulo at cti.depaul.edu] 
Sent: 29 October 2007 13:17
To: Richard Sinnott; lsg-rg at gridforum.org
Subject: RE: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting

Thanks, Richard, for your comments.  You are correct, our purpose is to
present proteomics / Life Sciences requirements to OGF at large (and
particular OGF research groups or working groups).  To do that, we must
learn what those requirements are by listening to the experts in the
area of high throughput proteomics.  If you know of any potential
speakers that have already developed these requirements, we would be
very happy to have you present their names for consideration; however, I
assume that our group will need to do this work ourselves.

Dave

David Sigfredo Angulo
Faculty
DePaul University
312-362-5041  dangulo at cti.depaul.edu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Sinnott [mailto:r.sinnott at nesc.gla.ac.uk]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:16 AM
> To: Angulo, David; lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> Subject: RE: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting
>
> If we are planning/discussing these via email, then can I suggest that

> the talks are applications of OGF specs/implementations applied to the

> proteomics/mass spec domain. Otherwise, and being my usual being 
> devils advocate, what is the point of having these presentations at 
> OGF and not somewhere else?
>
> The LSG-RG SHOULD be about informing OGF and hence OGSA standards 
> (what works and what doesn't etc). It should NOT be about life 
> sciences more generally - there are many conferences out there for 
> that.
>
> If nobody is using the OGF specs / implementations in proteomics-land 
> right now (which would not altogether surprise me), then another 
> alternative is to have someone present their proteomics requirements 
> and have OGF/OGSA area directors/WG leaders come in and discuss how 
> their various efforts meet those requirements. I feel that the results

> of this would be much more use to OGF/OGSA as a whole.
>
> Thoughts? Flames? ...
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsg-rg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:lsg-rg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf

> Of Angulo, David
> Sent: 28 October 2007 23:40
> To: lsg-rg at gridforum.org
> Subject: [LSG-RG] [LSG-RG @ OGF] February 2008 Proteomics Meeting
>
>
> Dear all:
>
> I would like to apologize for the previous message sent without a 
> proper introduction.  My private e-mail message was forwarded to the 
> list without my permission, but hopefully it didn't confuse anyone.
>
> This is an e-mail message regarding the Life Science Grid Research 
> Group
> (LSG-RG) in the Open Grid Forum (OGF), formerly the Global Grid Forum 
> (GGF).
>
> I will give a background of this group at the end of this message.
> First, though, let me state the purpose of this message.
>
> Our group has been extremely active since 2002, but the visibility of 
> our activities has waned.  One suggestion, which we believe is quite 
> on target, was to plan future meetings through our e-mail list 
> (through which you are receiving this message).
>
> I would like to start out such an effort by asking for input in 
> planning our next meeting, which will be help in February
> 2008 in Boston.  At the meeting in Seattle last week, the attendees 
> were extremely interested in the proteomics presentations, and the 
> group decided that we would solicit proteomics experts to speak at the

> next meeting.
>
> Thus, I would like to extend a call for presentations in proteomics.  
> We would like to specifically look for proteomic mass spectrometry 
> presentations, but all will be considered.
> I would like the membership of this e-mail list to help us in the 
> solicitation of speakers, and would like to solicit your input into 
> what topics and/or speakers we should pursue.
>
> I'm looking forward to input from all.
>
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> Grid Forum) which was formed with the purpose of developing best 
> practices in the area of the Life Sciences in the intersection with 
> Grid Computing.  The group also serves the purpose of interfacing with

> the other group in OGF and ensuring that all standards created by OGF 
> take into account the requirements of applications in the Life 
> Sciences.
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