[INFOD-WG] [Fwd: WS-ResourceTransfer draft published]

[Dave Pearson]

Norman,

Good reply - Savas would be proud of you

Dave

Norman Paton wrote:

>I think there is an obvious answer to this, which is that you certainly 
>shouldn't care now, or at least you shouldn't rush to intercept this 
>emerging activity.
>
>Brief history of specifications that support state (dates not checked):
>
>- 2002: OGSI arrives.  2004 OGSI dies.
>- 2004: WSRF arrives. 2006 WSRF dies.
>
>Lesson: minimise explicit dependencies in your specifications, in 
>particular to proposals that support state.
>
>Regards, Norman
>
>
>Chris Kantarjiev wrote:
>
>  
>
>>How much do we care?
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Today, IBM, Microsoft, HP, and Intel published on their respective web
>>sites the first draft specification from the WSDM and WS Management
>>convergence roadmap called Web Services Resource Transfer (WS-RT).
>>
>>http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/specification/ws-wsrt 
>>
>>
>>This convergence work is in response to our customers request for a 
>>common
>>set of open standards for the management of resources, devices and
>>applications with the goal of achieving interoperability.  Both WSDM and
>>WS-Management use lower-level specifications so the approach being 
>>used is
>>to build on existing specifications defining a set of enhancements that
>>enable convergence.  WS-RT is the technical evolution of the OASIS
>>WS-Resource Framework and W3C member submission WS-Transfer refactoring
>>work from both.  WS-RT describes how a resource manager can manipulate 
>>the
>>XML representation of a resource.  When the state of a resource can be
>>modeled as an XML document, WS-RT defines a mechanism by which SOAP 
>>can be
>>used to query and manipulate the state of that resource.  Additionally on
>>August 16, the WS MetadataExchange specification was republished to
>>incorporate changes for better integration with WS-RT.
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Subject:
>>WS-ResourceTransfer draft published
>>From:
>>Guru Bhat <Guru.Bhat at Oracle.com>
>>Date:
>>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:04:26 -0400
>>To:
>>ws_stds_us <ws_stds_us at oracle.com>, STANDARDSLEADERS_WW at oracle.com
>>
>>To:
>>ws_stds_us <ws_stds_us at oracle.com>, STANDARDSLEADERS_WW at oracle.com
>>
>>
>>FYI...
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Today, IBM, Microsoft, HP, and Intel published on their respective web
>>sites the first draft specification from the WSDM and WS Management
>>convergence roadmap called Web Services Resource Transfer (WS-RT).
>>
>>http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/specification/ws-wsrt 
>>
>>
>>This convergence work is in response to our customers request for a 
>>common
>>set of open standards for the management of resources, devices and
>>applications with the goal of achieving interoperability.  Both WSDM and
>>WS-Management use lower-level specifications so the approach being 
>>used is
>>to build on existing specifications defining a set of enhancements that
>>enable convergence.  WS-RT is the technical evolution of the OASIS
>>WS-Resource Framework and W3C member submission WS-Transfer refactoring
>>work from both.  WS-RT describes how a resource manager can manipulate 
>>the
>>XML representation of a resource.  When the state of a resource can be
>>modeled as an XML document, WS-RT defines a mechanism by which SOAP 
>>can be
>>used to query and manipulate the state of that resource.  Additionally on
>>August 16, the WS MetadataExchange specification was republished to
>>incorporate changes for better integration with WS-RT.
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>The link above includes the following text:
>>"Customers and vendors should continue investing in solutions and 
>>products based on the
>>implementations of the current specifications related to this work. 
>>The vendors are assuring that
>>this harmonization of the competing specifications will be a smooth 
>>evolution from today's
>>environment and provide a simplified technology base for the future. 
>>As the new specifications are
>>finalized a clear migration path will be defined."
>>
>>I am reading this to mean that we should continue to work with the 
>>existing WS-Management
>>specification, but keeping an eye on what is happening with the new 
>>specifications and new versions
>>of existing specifications.  At some stage, probably after our 1.0 
>>release, we will want to migrate
>>to the newer specifications.
>>
>>Éamonn
>>
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